Airborne Express + Hooters Air=?

[NoahWerka]

Any of you ABX guys heard anything about a Letter of Intent supposedly signed Friday by ABX to buy Hooters Air and Pace Airlines?

 

[UPSer]

Maybe they can fly pax in the old Delta 767s they are getting?

 

[erichartmann]

The rumor has been making the rounds. I had not heard a letter of had been signed.

I doubt there are plans to fly pax, but you never know. I suspect Pace has something else ABX wants, but don't know what it is.

 

[penguin22]

yup, I've heard it too.

 

[penguin22]

Maybe they can fly pax in the old Delta 767s they are getting?

those are all getting cargo doors

 

[1973Arrow]

Hooters with a box or two...what a combination

 

[xspud]

My vine said we were buying the ETOPS program from Pace Air. I don't know nothin' about that sophisticated stuff so don't know whether that makes any sense or not. The Pace/Hooters rumor has been persistent enough that I believe somebodies been talking about something. I don't expect ABX to ever fly passengers, though.

 

[erichartmann]

My vine said we were buying the ETOPS program from Pace Air. I don't know nothin' about that sophisticated stuff so don't know whether that makes any sense or not. The Pace/Hooters rumor has been persistent enough that I believe somebodies been talking about something. I don't expect ABX to ever fly passengers, though.

Makes sense I guess. I wouldn't discount the pax thing though. Joe might want a piece of the action hauling pax to the ME for the army.

 

[jehtplane]

My vine said we were buying the ETOPS program from Pace Air. I don't know nothin' about that sophisticated stuff so don't know whether that makes any sense or not. The Pace/Hooters rumor has been persistent enough that I believe somebodies been talking about something. I don't expect ABX to ever fly passengers, though.

uh, you don't buy ETOPS

 

[Clipperskip]

ABX/ Pace-Hooters

This rumor has been making the rounds in ILN since December but for the life of me I can't see how a buyout would help either ABX or PACE. Obviously the Hooters portion will no longer exist soon enough but one would expect the other PACE operations to continue (Vacation Express/ Charters, etc.). Best of luck to former CCAir buddies at Hooters Air. I would be happy to take a resume in to ABX for you if you would like, still not hiring but hopefully in the near future. Just PM me.

 

[jehtplane]

But you can buy a certificate with ETOPS in the Ops Specs....

That is fine but if your planes are not ETOPS then the certificate does you no good, I find it hard to believe that abx would buy pace for that or any reason

 

[GoABX]

Maybe they want the 75s and possibly the 733s (though the price would have to be pretty compelling on these).

 

[ERfly]

Maybe they want the 75s and possibly the 733s (though the price would have to be pretty compelling on these).

They're all leased anyway. Besides, all but 1 757 and all of the -300s have gone back to the leasing compnay, I think.

 

[Peanut gallery]

Be Paranoid

I am not saying this to be a pain, I would be very paranoid of any new certificate being a dodge for labor contracts. You just never know and these days management is motivated to save cost no matter what.

The ETOPS theory makes no sense to me, type up a program start some mx tracking and 1 month later if you are already a 121 you can be ETOPS. If a company does not have the expertise to create a program then there are plenty of hired guns that can do the job for far less than buying a company.