Air Willie aircraft question

[Mel Sharples]

Anyone know if Air Willie owns their CRJ's or is it Yo-nited?

Just curious if NWA is going fishing. . .



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[rightrudder]

We have our own financing from Bombardier and the Canadian Govt for all the CRJ's, with the possible exception of a handfull (4?) which may be leased from UAL.

 

[Mel Sharples]

We have our own financing from Bombardier and the Canadian Govt for all the CRJ's, with the possible exception of a handfull (4?) which may be leased from UAL.

Seriously, you guys could fly for NWA next month. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise for Air Willie. NWA would pee themselves to get you guys in the mix.

Good luck no matter what happens. . . What United is doing to you is crap.



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[J32driver]

What United is doing to you is crap.
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CAN I GET AN AMEN... BRUTHA!!!!!

 

[Mayday911]

UAL owns 6 of our RJS, we mortgaged approx. 20, and the rest are leased by AWAC, not United.

 

[Rottweiller]

. . . What United is doing to you is crap.

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As far as I am concerned UAL can take it and shove it where the sun don't shine. They will get their lowest bidders who in turn will run UAX in to the ground and take UAL along with them.

It would be nice to see AW Management have a proposal on NWA's (or someone else) desk in the morning for 70 aircraft and leave UAL out in the cold to squirm and die!!

I would take a ANOTHER cut just to see that!!

 

[WhiteCloud]

As far as I am concerned UAL can take it and shove it where the sun don't shine. They will get their lowest bidders who in turn will run UAX in to the ground and take UAL along with them.

It would be nice to see AW Management have a proposal on NWA's (or someone else) desk in the morning for 70 aircraft and leave UAL out in the cold to squirm and die!!

I would take a ANOTHER cut just to see that!!

I'm with you! Cuts ONLY if we fly for NWA! I like it.

 

[Rottweiller]

It's sad to say but this might get so friggin nasty it might actually become fun to watch the whole situation unfold!

 

[Indypilot]

Any you wonder why we left. I feel for all the employees out there. Hang in their guys. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. (it might be the train, so watch out)

 

[Mayday911]

Indy Air will be back flying for UAL...thats my guess. They are going bankrupt and may need the guaranteed revenue. Just my opinion, and my crystal ball just fell off the table.

 

[Indypilot]

Never.

Do you not see the irony here.

This is EXACTLY the reason why we left. Why would we go back?

Gee, I wonder if we had stayed if this would be us. Then AW, Then SKYW, then whoever the next highest is, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect, ect.

Eventually one or a few of them aren't going to exist anymore. They will have a glut of airplanes laying around that UAL or whomever promised they were going to get to fly. Then they lose half their flying in a competitive bid and are hosed.

I hope the AW guys do alright. I feel for ya. Hang in there

 

[WhiteCloud]

It's sad to say but this might get so friggin nasty it might actually become fun to watch the whole situation unfold!

We're at the point where UAL should simply be told to go [verb] themselves.

 

[Furloughed80]

A question for any Airlink pilots out there......How exactly does NW treat their regional partners?

 

[Mel Sharples]

A question for any Airlink pilots out there......How exactly does NW treat their regional partners?

Used to be very well. In fact, we thought the relationship was going better than any other major/regional partnership until the new NWA TA. They were great to us during our contract negotiations and they are very helpful in general. They had vowed to keep all "red tail" flying between mainline, Mesaba, and Pinnacle but after they signed the TA that all went out the window. They adopted a third child and we have to share what little milk is left in the tit with him. Not to mention he will be in our bed...

It's too bad that the TA came about the way it did. It really put a dent in what was a good relationship, and now the Airlink pilots don't believe a word out of the mouth on the NWA MEC chairman.

Actions speak louder than words.

 

[146guy]

I agree with Mayday. It would be beneficial to both United and Indy or should I say ACA. United will get back those gates in IAD and indy won't have to furlough. Indy is really the only company that could come in overnight and replace AWAC's flying, they have the planes and pilots to do it. I hope for Indy's sake this doesn't happen but if you guys are supposedly on the verge of bk then it may be a logical option (maybe). I'm hoping we see red soon here at awac.

 

[w4mch]

Forget Indy going back to UAL. Ain't gonna happen, 'cause we could have had the "5 year cut your own throat" deal UAL is offering you last year without spending our cash. UAL doesn't need our IAD gates either, they got that snazzy new G terminal. What they do need is to keep us from depressing their yields in the markets we compete in and to lower their feed costs at the same time.

Indy management ain't gonna make any decision based on furloughs either. This is just a feeble attempt to get more cash out of ARW and at the same time put the squeeze on Indy management via the financial press. Indy is not "on the verge of bankruptcy" as you have been told. We have a cash drain for sure, but steps are in place to bridge the gap.

I really hope you go with NWA and tell the @$$e$ in ORD to pack it. Better yet, go back to the ARW I came from, a great midwest airline that flew under it's own code and dominated the short haul scene in ORD.

 

[WhiteCloud]

Forget Indy going back to UAL. Ain't gonna happen, 'cause we could have had the "5 year cut your own throat" deal UAL is offering you last year without spending our cash. UAL doesn't need our IAD gates either, they got that snazzy new G terminal. What they do need is to keep us from depressing their yields in the markets we compete in and to lower their feed costs at the same time.

Don't go back to UAL.....I want to see Indy kick UAL's big fat [body part] out of IAD.