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Hey guys, I just got a call from Airnow and they were offering me a EMB110 Captain position there. Can anyone tell me about QOL, pay, how much flight time can someone accumulate there. If anyone can give be the clean and durty about the comp. Thanks
 
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I'm going to the interview soon. Most likely they will put me on the C208 if I get an offer. Any tips on the interview is appreciated. I heard they're hiring into a pool, so how long should one expected to wait? I don't want to start right away, so a few months is fine for me.
 
Yeah don't worry you won't have to worry about those pesky writeups.
 
Pay is 18-21K for C208 and 21-24 for E110. E110 capt position is single-pilot no AP (just make sure your IFR current-they will have you fly a PCATD in interview)
QOL is pretty standard for overnight feeder freight. Load plane up at around 7 pm fly to hub, sleep in crashpad or crew room (no hotels) do the same thing again at around 6 am. Repeated 4 or 5 times a week.
All E110s runs with the exception of 2 do around 300-350 hrs. year. C208 runs are usually around 400-600.

The Good: Turbine PIC, ME PIC Upgrades in as little as 6-12 mo., Good bases-summers in Maine, winters in S. Texas or Southeast.

The Bad: Pay, See some previous post regarding AirNow, lots of lawsuits and random firing.
 
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Thank you T-Rex. Went to interview today; I like this company. Waiting. How long does it usually takes before getting a call? Lawsuit and Random firing? Can you give more details? Appreciate your help!
 
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I interviewed there a year ago. They told me they would let me know something in two weeks. A month and a half later they call me and offer me the job, but I already had someting else going on.
Great company and awesome people!
 
They must be hurting for pilots as I got a call from them after they found my resume on climbto350.com. I already had some other things going on, but the 110 sounded like an interesting machine to fly. Good luck to those interviewing with them.
 
Well, they seem to be really hurting for pilots. They've called me about 4 times already eventhough after I told them I wasnt really interested. The Emb 110 does seem like a fun plane to fly, and single pilot "even better" but 28k a year is mighty low and they want me to fly to Vermont out of my own pocket for a sim eval.
 
Jet USA is hiring Falcon copilots, starts at $34000.

Heard upgrade is about a year and Captains make around $60,000.

http://www.jsfirm.com/companydetail.asp?jobid=4654

Position Pilot-Fixed Wing / DA-20 First Officer
Permanent
Company: USA Jet Airlines
Fax Number: ()
Address: USA Jet Airlines
Hangar 2068 E Street
Belleville
MICHIGAN
48111
USA

Email: See Below Web Address: www.activeaero.com
Company Info: USA Jet Operates a fleet of DC9-15, DC9-30 and Dassault FA20 aircraft under a 121 Supplemental Air Carrier Certificate providing on-demand cargo and passenger charter service throughout North America, the Caribbean, Central and South America. Headquartered at Willow Run Airport near Ann Arbor, Michigan, the Active Aero Group, including Active Aero Charter and USA Jet Airlines, Inc. is the largest full service Air Cargo Charter Company in North America.
Supported Manufacturers: McDonnel Douglas and Dassault.
Job Title: DA-20 First Officer
Location: WILLOW RUN MICHIGAN USA
Salary Range: Neg-Neg
Email: [email protected]
Job Desc: On-demand Air Cargo. Part 121 Carrier.

Hiring preference will be given to residents of the Detroit area.

For pilots hired outside of the Detroit area, they must be able to relocate to the Detroit area and establish a residence. USA Jet will assist in relocation by a direct reimbursement of up to $3,000.

Entry level position is as a DA-20 F/O.

Starting pay as a DA-20 F/O is $300 per week while in training. Upon successful completion of training, base monthly pay is $43.86 per hour with a 65-hour guarantee.

DA-20 pilots receive 10 hard days off per 28 day bid period.

Please email resumes to [email protected], or fax them to 734-547-7388.
Benefits: While providing an excellent benefits package & competitive salary. We consider all applicants for all positions without regard to race, color, religion, sex, marital status, national origin, age, medical condition or disability, veteran status or any other legally protected status.
Requirements: Have ATP certificate or ATP written by the first day of ground school.
No felony convictions.
Be willing to take a drug test
Be able to furnish proof of eligibility for employment in the USA
<li>Be willing to work scheduled holidays, weekends, and must be willing to report to the airport within 20 minutes of being paged.

Application mimums are 1200 TT and 750 MEL. Usa Jet counts all rotor-wing in the TT. We will also consider 50% of military multi-engine, two man crew rotor-wing towards MEL minimums, up to 650 hours.
Travel: As Required
Relocation: Up to $3,000 for move to Detroit area
 
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28K only possible if you become instructor and check airman first year.

About the random firing comment see some of the previous threads. There have been a number of pilots get terminated over rediculos things while others do incredibly stupid things and receive quick upgrades and promotions. TJ the pilot mentioned in a bunch of those threads who testified against another pilot in his wrongful termination case--just got fired for jokingly telling the newby 208 pilots in Maine to take out life insurance policies. I gotta kick out of that.

Oh yeah, if you sign a contract plan on finishing it. Its a promissory note and they can send creditors to screw up your credit.

But if you can keep yourself under radar its not a bad place to be. Put in 2 years there and you will leave with 1000 turbine and an ATP.
 
the pay rates mentioned above are down from what they used to be.

year 2000 starting pay:
c208 - 18k ($290/week after your basic bachelor taxes)
e110 - 24k
(add statute straightline mileage pay and per-diem)
so ask yourself who are the most likely people to accept this job at this payrate? and thats the kind of people youre going to get. at that starting 208 pay you better have your car paid-for and owe nothing to anyone. then youll get by for a while.

the c208 pay is the same now as it was back in 2000. it went up a bit since but its right back down to where it was 5 years ago. same for the e110 if not slightly lower than it was in 2000. someone please update the mileage and per-diem rates as those may have changed.

all schedules are different in regards to time "in the middle" of your work. the flight out. then sleep then fly back can be as much as 6-7 hours to sleep or as little as 4. hours per year range from 300 to 700+ on the e110. on the 208 it could be as high as 80 a month! (in that winter i did it, a full 1/3 of my time was in actual) Again this all depend on what routes you fly. theres wide variation in these with the same pay regardless.

theyre really tight on that contract now. they will enforce it. like t-rex said (sup dog?!) stay under the radar. management is very sensitive to what you say about them and the company. however you could also fly into the trees, do a go-around out of them and still have a job in the end. be a good worker and youll come out of there with an ATP, a type, all kinds of multi-turbine PIC in a typed plane, awesome decision making skillz....and youll also have had about as much fun flying a plane as you can handle. I miss the 208 and the e-110 and the flying i did in them. They're two of the most fun planes and youll learn alot from them. but i do not miss the job they came with. do it again if i had the chance to do it all over? Absolutely. was a good time overall.
 
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however you could also fly into the trees, do a go-around out of them and still have a job in the end.

wassup rob, yea i heard he's flying a NJI G4 now WTF? some people have all the luck. Got to throw out there that the pilot mentioned above was fired once on a saturday for not answering his home phone but rehired again on monday. :) gotta love it!
 
TJ the pilot mentioned in a bunch of those threads who testified against another pilot in his wrongful termination case--just got fired for jokingly telling the newby 208 pilots in Maine to take out life insurance policies. I gotta kick out of that.


I heard he wrote a letter of resignation? Guess I heard different.

Here is what is on my checks look like, before taxes of course, for a 5 day a week run in the Emb110:

Daily rate- $104 a day=$520 a week X 52 weeks =$27,040 first year base pay.
Mileage-$57.20 a week
Per deim- usually around $72 a week
Normal week= $649.20

Not gonna get rich but it is a great stepping stone. Prolly more than what Diesel makes at Nut Jets. Guess it is too bad he did not have enough backbone to not fly a broken airplane when he was here.
 
You're right neither TJ, AP, AM were not fired but were told to resign. The Good: Not fired, The bad: No unemployment pay and you can get sued for breaking contract like AM.

Hey make sure you wash the plane too made a grand doing it when i worked there.
 
AM got sued but he sued them first. His case is still pending with the Maine state human rights board. Remember to save all your time sheets. The judge loved it when they doctored all his times and AM had the originals.

They'll be paying him for a loooooong time.
 
Gee, too bad about TJ. Never worked there but he was based at the same FBO I was. Liked him a lot. Never seemed to be an A-hole, maybe something changed.

Anyway, I thought they were a good company. Is Coop still there? How is he doing, heard there were some "issues". Hope he is well.
 
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AM got sued but he sued them first. His case is still pending with the Maine state human rights board. Remember to save all your time sheets. The judge loved it when they doctored all his times and AM had the originals.

They'll be paying him for a loooooong time.



You guys getting ramp checked a lot now, seems like this would draw some attention from the FAA.
 

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