Air Marshal Barney Fife

[GoingHot]

I read in another article that this guy did this on purpose to make a point about how easy it is to be recognized, due to TSA policies.

Thursday, June 1, 2006 · Last updated 8:14 p.m. PT
Air marshal drops bullets, leaves plane
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
CHICAGO -- A U.S. air marshal removed himself from a Southwest Airlines flight Thursday after dropping a clip of bullets on the floor just before the plane was to take off, an airline spokeswoman said.
The marshal arrived at Midway International Airport on a flight from Philadelphia and was boarding a flight to Kansas City when the clip fell to the floor, scattering bullets, Southwest spokeswoman Whitney Eichinger told the Chicago Tribune for a story on its Web site.
"Since he was no longer traveling incognito, he decided not to continue on the flight," Eichinger said, adding that no extra screening of passengers was necessary because officials determined the bullets belonged to the air marshal. "He picked the bullets up immediately."
The flight to Kansas City was delayed 45 minutes because of the incident, she said.
The Federal Air Marshal Service declined to confirm the specifics of the mishap. But agency spokesman Dave Adams said an ammunition clip was located and turned over to the Transportation Security Administration.
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[FN FAL]

How would you recognize an Air Marshal on a SWA flight, He/she is the only one not wearing a Budwiser tank top, a mullet and one of those stupid looking baseball caps with the flames on the side?

 

[JohnE]

How would you recognize an Air Marshal on a SWA flight, He/she is the only one not wearing a Budwiser tank top, a mullet and one of those stupid looking baseball caps with the flames on the side?

LOL!

In all seriousness.. What a huge pork filled beauracracy Homeland "Security" is. And where do I sign up for that cake job of flying back and forth sitting on my azz all day?

What do these boobs do on the flight? Just sit there? Or are they able to page thru porn? How much do they get PAID? I suspect quite handsomely.

 

[Junkflyer]

You couldn't pay enough to spend all my time flying in coach.

 

[A Squared]

You couldn't pay enough to spend all my time flying in coach.

Man, that's what I was thinking. I'd rather dig ditches than ride coach for a living.

 

[Fearless Tower]

when the clip fell to the floor, scattering bullets,

Dang media....it ain't freakin' clip, it's a magazine! And how do you drop a mag on the floor and scatter a bunch of bullets??? I'd say I believe the report that he did it on purpose.

 

[A Squared]

Dang media....it ain't freakin' clip, it's a magazine! And how do you drop a mag on the floor and scatter a bunch of bullets??? I'd say I believe the report that he did it on purpose.

Yeah, it's a magazine, a detatchable box magazine, if you really want to be anal. However, even among people involved in the use of firearms, it is very common to use the less precise term "clip". I think perhaps the media could be cut a little slack here. Are you perhaps on of those who insists that it's an "instrument approach procedure chart" and not a "plate"

 

[wmuflyguy]

LOL!

In all seriousness.. What a huge pork filled beauracracy Homeland "Security" is. And where do I sign up for that cake job of flying back and forth sitting on my azz all day?

What do these boobs do on the flight? Just sit there? Or are they able to page thru porn? How much do they get PAID? I suspect quite handsomely.

I doubt you would be able to, make it through the training to be a FAM. From what I have been todl it is pretty rough.

 

[Fearless Tower]

Are you perhaps on of those who insists that it's an "instrument approach procedure chart" and not a "plate"

No...I'm not that anal...it's a plate to me....and I don't mind hearing 'with you'....either, but that's a whole 'nother thread. Unfortunately I was a weapons guy on my last ship and calling it a clip (which in the weapons world is something completely different) was like blasphemy to my gunners mates.

 

[A Squared]

No...I'm not that anal...it's a plate to me....and I don't mind hearing 'with you'....either, but that's a whole 'nother thread. Unfortunately I was a weapons guy on my last ship and calling it a clip (which in the weapons world is something completely different) was like blasphemy to my gunners mates.

Maybe it he was armed with a Garand, then it would have been a clip?

 

[G2T]

You couldn't pay enough to spend all my time flying in coach.

It would be one of my worst nightmares...it is like a NEVERENDING deadhead that I can't take a nap on.

 

[frog_flyer]

How would you recognize an Air Marshal on a SWA flight, He/she is the only one not wearing a Budwiser tank top, a mullet and one of those stupid looking baseball caps with the flames on the side?

.... dont hate.

seriously though. I have long hair right now and am going to trim everything but the back and go to an indy race. its gonna be great

 

[acaTerry]

And where do I sign up for that cake job of flying back and forth sitting on my azz all day?
Do you have ANY idea what you are talking about?

Or are they able to page thru porn? How much do they get PAID? I suspect quite handsomely.

Ah here we go with another high-schoolish kid who thinks it makes you a man to look at porn...grow up. The pay is not as great as you would expect. It starts around GS9 from whatI have heard.

 

[FracCapt]

Ah here we go with another high-schoolish kid who thinks it makes you a man to look at porn...grow up. The pay is not as great as you would expect. It starts around GS9 from whatI have heard.

It starts low....but goes up significantly after 2-3 years...but the work still sucks. Sitting in the back all day, flight after flight, for 4-5 days a week. Long duty days. Feel free to read...but don't be caught sleeping.

 

[JohnE]

Ah here we go with another high-schoolish kid who thinks it makes you a man to look at porn...grow up. The pay is not as great as you would expect. It starts around GS9 from whatI have heard.

Didn't mean to offend you... I was implying that the type of person who would take this job is probably into pornography and is probably brain dead. Certainly doesn't make you a man to watch porn.

But seriously, starting salary for police officers in my suburb is around $48k, and this is a low crime area. I'm sure these gum shoe, TSA, "ride alongs" must make somewhere near that, and most likely more. Must be near brain dead.

 

[FN FAL]

I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream. That's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight... razor... and surviving.

......

 

[FN FAL]

Do androids dream of electric sheep?

Here's two pages of cops/cop wanna be's, talking on their forum about the looming air marshal shortage, one hints that starting pay is 52k a year.

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27830

 

[wmuflyguy]

Didn't mean to offend you... I was implying that the type of person who would take this job is probably into pornography and is probably brain dead. Certainly doesn't make you a man to watch porn.

But seriously, starting salary for police officers in my suburb is around $48k, and this is a low crime area. I'm sure these gum shoe, TSA, "ride alongs" must make somewhere near that, and most likely more. Must be near brain dead.

I see you are extrememly misinformed about the system. Air Marshall's aren't some TSA ride-along rejects that you seem to think. These guys have considerable amount of specalized training and fire-arms training.

Yea sitting in back sucks, but sitting up front staring out the window of the RJ as is slowly plods around isn't exactly the most intersting thing on the planet(I know that may shock you, but trust me on that).

There is plenty of porn reading up front and more than enough brain dead people up there also.

 

[FN FAL]

Not to change the subject, but did any of you guys/gals see the "Mythbusters" episode last night where they pressurized an airliner and shot a bullet through a window to see what would happen?

They also tested the Bugg's Bunny theory of sticking your finger in the barrel of shotgun to make the shotgun blow back on the shooter. Wouldn't be prudent to do that one at home.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Not to change the subject, but did any of you guys/gals see the "Mythbusters" episode last night where they pressurized an airliner and shot a bullet through a window to see what would happen?

They also tested the Bugg's Bunny theory of sticking your finger in the barrel of shotgun to make the shotgun blow back on the shooter. Wouldn't be prudent to do that one at home.

I saw that one a while ago. The guys finger didn't fare to well.

 

[Snakum]

Originally Posted by acaTerry
I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream. That's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight... razor... and surviving.

LMFAO! Terry seriously needs to lighten the fak up. He's the single biggest anal buzzkill on this forum ... and that's saying something.

 

[Gorilla]

Danger Will Robinson. I mentioned a while back about a FAM who accused one of our captains of being drunk. Like the TSA, these guys have their own agendas and are NOT your good buddies.

That said, "neverending coach deadhead" is apt. I'd use that gun on myself after a week. I cannot imagine the tedium. No thanks, they're welcome to their $48K or for that matter, I wouldn't do it for $100K.

 

[PurpleInMEM]

From the opm website:

VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT
Agency Name: Dept of Homeland Security

Vacancy Announcement Number: FAMS-FLD-05-0002

Apply Online: Click Here to
Apply to This Vacancy

Opening Date: 07/02/2005

Closing Date: 07/02/2006

Area of Consideration: US citizens - All applicants who applied under any
previous Federal Air Marshal announcement must reapply under this vacancy
announcement to be considered.

Position Title, Series, Pay Band: Federal Air Marshal, SV-1801-G/H/I
Category: Technical
Career Level: 1/2/3

Salary: $36,400.00 - $83,900.00 Annual

Duty Location(s): Nationwide

Work Schedule: Full Time

Time Limit: Permanent - No time limit

 

[FracCapt]

Salary: $36,400.00 - $83,900.00 Annual

That does not include LEAP and locality pay. LEAP is 25% of base salary. Locality pay depends on the cost of living in that location.

There is no choice in domicile when you start as a FAM...you go where they need you. Getting to other domiciles is not done by a seniority based system, either.

 

[gringo]

Prior to 9/11, the FAM program was one of the closest held secrets we had- there were less than 100 of them total. They were trained better than the Secret Service- some of the best handgunners in the world. It was a very tough and greuling experience.

AFTER 9/11, the position exploded- literally hundreds were added almost overnight. The quality of training went down dramatically, but they´re still DAMN good shots.

The other misconception is that they ride coach all day long. This isn´t true. They´re just as likely to ride up in First or Buisness as they are in coach. Usually working in pairs, one sits in the back somewhere, and the other sits up front somewhere. And I´ve seen them while jumpseating mainline wearing anything from a wifebeater or Harley tshirt with a mullet to a buisness suit. Bottom line is, unless you know what to look for, chances are you have no idea the slob sitting next to you is actually a highly trained federal agent.