Air Force unveils new uniform plan

[exagony]

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Originally posted by Chunk
Why did they steal the Corps' 8-point cover design?
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SHHHHH!!!! I'm still trying to pretend I didn't see that.

Reminds me of when I was doing my UPT interview with the ANG and I saw some AF dude wearing a MARINE CORPS COVER with his AF BDUs. I don't know where he got it, but he's d@mn lucky that I was walking with my interviewers.....



I think they stole the Corps' 8 point cover because EVERYONE wishes and dreams they could be in the Corps but 99% of the population is just to big of a p*ssy to actually be in the Corps.

Semper Fi,
Member of the Old Corps - Battle axe and hammer!

 

[wingnutt]

They're probably hot on the heels of the USMC who is going to the new digital pattern with their proprietary own fabric and print.

BINGO!!! apparently someone (Marine Grunt) dosent know that the USMC is actually the one who developed that exact pattern, right down the the logo thruout the pattern...albeit in a different color scheme

 

[wingnutt]

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/article.cfm?Id=548

http://www.yuma.usmc.mil/pao/readarticle.asp?article=58

...edit for additional link

 

[Typhoon1244]

From http://www.yuma.usmc.mil/pao/readarticle.asp?article=58:
Digital camouflage...

Digital camouflage?

If you stand too close, you can see the jaggies.

But you blend in much faster than you could with the old analog camouflage.

 

[MarineGrunt]

BINGO!!! apparently someone (Marine Grunt) dosent know that the USMC is actually the one who developed that exact pattern, right down the the logo thruout the pattern...albeit in a different color scheme

The new Marine uniform is completely different and a huge step up from the woodlands. The colors of the AF uniform are what I have issue with, not the pattern (although I'm not sure it's the greatest). Yes, it does look similar to the old tiger stripe, but that was never a very effective form of camoflauge anyway.

 

[LJDRVR]

Looks like nothing more than a rehash of the 1960's Vietnam-era tiger-stripe camo.

I've got to agree that the eight-point cover is lame beyond belief. But why the insults directed at the Air Force here folks? Don't you guys know all this is is some general officer with an out of control ego punching his ticket for the next star? The troops have no choice in the matter, just like when General Mcpeak was Chief of Staff. All it takes is one crazy *!#% to ruin it for everybody else. (I have first-hand experience with Merrill, major league tool.)

 

[Typhoon1244]

Don't you guys know all this is is some general officer with an out of control ego punching his ticket for the next star?

Yeah, whatever happened to that new A.F. dress uniform that came out in the mid-Nineties? The Pan Am uniform? Did that ever make it into service?

 

[MarineGrunt]

But why the insults directed at the Air Force here folks?

No insults coming from me. It seems a few are taking it that way though. My problem is with the proposal of this uniform. Not with any of you zoomies.

 

[wingnutt]

The new Marine uniform is completely different and a huge step up from the woodlands. The colors of the AF uniform are what I have issue with, not the pattern (although I'm not sure it's the greatest).

it is kinda odd...but some seem to think it works well on tarmac, and thats all they need it for

Yes, it does look similar to the old tiger stripe, but that was never a very effective form of camoflauge anyway.

well...we could always go back to the old olive drab

No insults coming from me. It seems a few are taking it that way though.

not insulted here...it just sounded like you were chastising the very style that the marines sort of pioneered, what with the digital pattern and all

My problem is with the proposal of this uniform. Not with any of you zoomies.

oh no...dont make me break out the grunt one-liners

 

[MarineGrunt]

not insulted here...it just sounded like you were chastising the very style that the marines sort of pioneered, what with the digital pattern and all

When the new 'digimon' cammies were being developed, there were hardly any Marines that welcomed the idea, myself included. It wasn't until when Marines' started seeing first hand the effectiveness of the pattern that it started to grow on them. Yes, the Corps developed the uniform not only for an improved pattern, but also to be unique among the services. If you have ever seen them close up, one can tell that they aren't much of a fashon statement, because they look pretty ridiculous with hundreds of tiny squares all over them. But I must say the thing that I like the most are the angled pockets in the sleeves. PERFECT for storing the smokes. I know that part was designed by a grunt.

Be biggest complaint I ever had about the digimon cammies, is not necessarilly with the uniform itself, but with the combination of that and out issued field gear. I found it quite ironic how we received brand new MOLLE gear and Interceptor vests in WOODLAND camo and shortly after were issued the new digital cammies. Now THAT defeats the purpose of camoflauge to begin with...

 

[MarineGrunt]

oh no...dont make me break out the grunt one-liners

Oooooooooooo.... Whattya gonna do? Put on yer bus-driver uniform and run me down with a Greyhound???

 

[Jafar]

Re: Re: ...but the real question is....

I think they stole the Corps' 8 point cover because EVERYONE wishes and dreams they could be in the Corps but 99% of the population is just to big of a p*ssy to actually be in the Corps.

Semper Fi,
Member of the Old Corps - Battle axe and hammer!

You Jarheads are seriously killing me. Having pride in your service is great. Expecting uniformity and having pride in ones personal appearance is great.

Belittling other services because of a presumed superiority they force fed you in boot camp sucks.

Now before you Gyreens start your assault on me keep in mind I claimed the title of Marine for 8 years. Now I've crossed into the Blue, which is probably more offfensive to you than the above statements.

What I'm getting at, don't take yourselves so serious. No one else does.

Besides, MarineGrunt, didn't you cross into the Blue yourself?

Every service has a mission that they do well. If the neandrethals really want to talk tough, how many dead Iraqi's and Al Qada did your service tally up? I'd be willing to bet the pussified, pampered zoomies got about 10 times as many as the fire breathing hard ass Jarheads.

That is, if you want to look at things from the "Old Corps" way of thinking.

 

[MarineGrunt]

Re: Re: Re: ...but the real question is....

You Jarheads are seriously killing me. Having pride in your service is great. Expecting uniformity and having pride in ones personal appearance is great.

Belittling other services because of a presumed superiority they force fed you in boot camp sucks.

Now before you Gyreens start your assault on me keep in mind I claimed the title of Marine for 8 years. Now I've crossed into the Blue, which is probably more offfensive to you than the above statements.

What I'm getting at, don't take yourselves so serious. No one else does.

Besides, MarineGrunt, didn't you cross into the Blue yourself?

Every service has a mission that they do well. If the neandrethals really want to talk tough, how many dead Iraqi's and Al Qada did your service tally up? I'd be willing to bet the pussified, pampered zoomies got about 10 times as many as the fire breathing hard ass Jarheads.

That is, if you want to look at things from the "Old Corps" way of thinking.

I think you need to read my posts above. Again, I am not bashing the AF or anyone in it, besides the yahoo proposing this uniform. I think you need to take a pill and relax a bit.

And yes, FYI I am crossing over to the guard. Did I take any shots at the AF or Guard? No. Did I belittle them, or their missions? No. Did I refer to them as a bunch of pu$$ies? No.

I'll just leave it at that.

 

[wingnutt]

easy there Jafar (wasnt that a disney character name?) MarineGrunt is not the one with the chip on his shoulder, its this guy...

I think they stole the Corps' 8 point cover because EVERYONE wishes and dreams they could be in the Corps but 99% of the population is just to big of a p*ssy to actually be in the Corps.

and as for you...

Oooooooooooo.... Whattya gonna do? Put on yer bus-driver uniform and run me down with a Greyhound???

...ive already acquired one marine hat from a good old fashioned wrestling match when we were in san loius obisbo for JRTC, dont make me come and take yours too

 

[wms]

The troops have no choice in the matter, just like when General Mcpeak was Chief of Staff. All it takes is one crazy *!#% to ruin it for everybody else.

Or the Creech brown that was splashed over every AF building... every six months.

Or washing rocks at Nellis because they were dusty, and separating the red ones from the white ones, etc., etc.

 

[MarineGrunt]

...ive already acquired one marine hat from a good old fashioned wrestling match when we were in san loius obisbo for JRTC, dont make me come and take yours too

Yikes... as I'm wetting my trousers and running away, I think I'll sing my favorite cadence...

"Air Force, Air Force, I'm in doubt,
Why are your pot bellies stickin out?
Is it beer or is it wine?
Or is it just lack of PT time?"

 

[wingnutt]

*sigh* ...you're alright Grunt, even though you got my branch wrong id love to throw down my favorite air force joke...

Back in 1947 the government was experimenting with a Marine's ability to complete his mission after suffering a serious head injury.

They took a well trained, physically-fit, hard-charging Cpl. and told him to row a canoe up a river. The Cpl. jumped in the canoe, started rowing up stream with ease and began singing, "From the Halls of Montezuma, To the Shores of Tripoli."

The next day a team of surgeons performed a frontal lobotomy on the Marine. Again, they took him to the river and said' "row."

Again the Cpl. jumped in, took a second to find his seat, started rowing with a little difficulty and began singing. It took a little more effort this time, "From Da Hallls of Montayuma, Two Da Stores in Tripoli." But he made it up river and completed the task.

The next day the surgeons removed the majority of the Marines brain and took him to the river.

The Cpl. jumped in, fell out, and began swimming up stream, singing "For Da Hails of Monte puma, to 'e hall inn monopoly." But again, he made it up river and completed his task.

The next day the surgeons removed the remainder of the Marines brain. He had no brain what-so-ever and no way to think logically. They took him to the river. He fell out of the car and began singing, "Here we go, Into the wild blue yonder...."

Yikes... as I'm wetting my trousers and running away, I think I'll sing my favorite cadence...

in order that you can adjust your cadence accordingly, ill tell you that i was in the 101st Airborne Division. to further your imagination, i was attached to the Marines back in the early 90's to teach them how to run a bulldozer. ill refrain from telling the stories, but i will close with reminding you of the 5 most dangerous things you will ever hear in the Corp...

1-A Private saying, "I learned this in Basic Training..."
2-A Sergeant saying, "Trust me, sir..."
3-A Second Lieutenant saying, "Based on my experience..."
4-A Captain saying, "I was just thinking..."
5-A Sergeant Major chuckling, "Watch this s hit..."

...if you're ever in dallas, look me up and ill buy you a beer and tell you the stories of teaching a marine how to dig a hole with something other than an e-tool

 

[MarineGrunt]

...if you're ever in dallas, look me up and ill buy you a beer and tell you the stories of teaching a marine how to dig a hole with something other than an e-tool

Sounds like a deal. I'll bring my cover!

 

[jarhead]

You guys are cracking me up! I love it......keep it up, and I may give you a few of my old anecdotes about inter-service shots at each other.

 

[njcapt]

If that were the case, wouldn't they adopt something like the uniform worn by the Vatican's Swiss Guards?

(Now that looks sharp! )

The only places that Swiss cammo would be effective is at a renaissance fair or a gay pride parade.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.