Air 360, or Cargo 360..?

[b757driver]

Actually, the price has gone up to $325 for the drug screen and background check...but this is only after you've been offered employment. Sounds pretty low rent to me.

Has anybody actually interviewed with these folks lately? I received an invite to interview with them, but am not sure if it would be a waste of my time or not. I'm a bit leery of the whole operation, and haven't really heard any good gouge on the company as of yet.

Sounds like a rip-off to me!!

Of course you would be wasting your time with an outfit like this (and there's plenty more like them out there), that's what they're banking on.

I, too, received an invite but turne dthem down flat when I heard the details. Frankly, I'm better off where I am, based overseas thatn come home and get an IMMEDIATE 60% drop in my salary. Yeah, baby, way to go......NOT!!!!!:laugh:

 

[B747Flyer]

Actually, the price has gone up to $325 for the drug screen and background check...but this is only after you've been offered employment. Sounds pretty low rent to me.

Has anybody actually interviewed with these folks lately? I received an invite to interview with them, but am not sure if it would be a waste of my time or not. I'm a bit leery of the whole operation, and haven't really heard any good gouge on the company as of yet.

Why would you even consider going to an interview with them?
When are you going? Give us an update if you accept.

 

[Draginass]

Sounds like only the most desperate or under-qualified will consider this outfit. I 'd hate to see what the FOs will be like there.

 

[Archie Bunker]

Why would you even consider going to an interview with them?
When are you going? Give us an update if you accept.

I've pretty much decided that I'm not going to accept the interview with them. The whole operation....paying for your piss test, flying yourself up there, etc....smells pretty low rent. Not to mention the lousy pay, and having to commute again. No thanks.

 

[Archie Bunker]

Sounds like only the most desperate or under-qualified will consider this outfit. I 'd hate to see what the FOs will be like there.

Desperate, maybe....under-qualified, I doubt it. I think they are targeting former Delta (retired) or furloughed Delta guys for the operation. I'm pretty sure that's how I got the invite to the interview. To the guys running the operation at Cargo 360, we're a know quantity....nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Draginass]

With the exception of the majors who'll give you a pass on their airline to go interview, I don't know of any companies that will buy you a ticket to an interview. Most won't even give you a hotel room.

But a $16k training bond is way out of line and having to pay for your own drug test tells me these guys are either cheap or are expecting to get a bunch of pot-heads as potential employees.

 

[B747Flyer]

Desperate, maybe....under-qualified, I doubt it. I think they are targeting former Delta (retired) or furloughed Delta guys for the operation. I'm pretty sure that's how I got the invite to the interview. To the guys running the operation at Cargo 360, we're a know quantity....nothing more, nothing less.

Archie -
When are you interviewing? Or have you already interviewed? Can you give us some info on how it went? What are they really looking for?

Inquiring minds and all that...

 

[Archie Bunker]

With the exception of the majors who'll give you a pass on their airline to go interview, I don't know of any companies that will buy you a ticket to an interview. Most won't even give you a hotel room.

Actually, NetJets paid for my airline ticket and a room at the Hilton. Class act.

 

[Archie Bunker]

Archie -
When are you interviewing? Or have you already interviewed? Can you give us some info on how it went? What are they really looking for?

Inquiring minds and all that...

I haven't interviewed yet, nor do I plan to at this time.

Call me cheap, but I'm not paying $325 for the privilege of taking a piss test, nor am I flying myself up there and paying for a hotel room. If they want me that bad, they can pay for all the above. Screw em.

 

[EMB Skillz]

They never called me anyhow, so I didn't have to worry about it.

Man, you must really stink! They are desperate for pilots and they won't even call you!

This seems like a good place to go and get some heavy time. Does anybody have some real information besides whining about a lousy piss test? I will gladly pay for it to get a job on a 747.

 

[Thedude]

I will gladly pay for it to get a job on a 747.

And that is one of the problems with the current industry.

 

[jbDC9]

I will gladly pay for it to get a job on a 747.

I'm still trying to determine whether that's just flame bait or if you're really just incredibly stupid...

 

[ironspud]

Well....since I work for the "competition", you might want to consider this no more than urban legend. And I will be upfront and say the following info has not been verified by me. And also, I am way too lazy to try.

But I pulled on to the "R" ramp in ANC last week twice. Both times there was a cargo 360 with stretched upper deck sitting there. Apparently, they pulled in with a load and got caught by the FAA with a surprise inspection on their weight and balance and cargo loading.

It was so bad the airplane was shut down and the cargo unloaded and another (ahem) company flew their freight. I guess they didn't feel that having a few loadmasters on the payroll was worth it.

But...maybe just urban legend.

 

[bombinha]

Oh that's what means the 743 they have parked at that weird place?
I didn't know this detail but when I arrived in PANC yesterday everyone notice them parked in a different place for a cargo plane.

 

[Draginass]

Well....since I work for the "competition", you might want to consider this no more than urban legend. And I will be upfront and say the following info has not been verified by me. And also, I am way too lazy to try.

But I pulled on to the "R" ramp in ANC last week twice. Both times there was a cargo 360 with stretched upper deck sitting there. Apparently, they pulled in with a load and got caught by the FAA with a surprise inspection on their weight and balance and cargo loading.

It was so bad the airplane was shut down and the cargo unloaded and another (ahem) company flew their freight. I guess they didn't feel that having a few loadmasters on the payroll was worth it.

But...maybe just urban legend.

I've got a hard time believing that a company is that reckless and arrogant, and would risk the lives of their aircrews like that . . . . . . . or, maybe I would these days.

 

[ironspud]

I've got a hard time believing that a company is that reckless and arrogant, and would risk the lives of their aircrews like that . . . . . . . or, maybe I would these days.

Probably just "growing pains".

 

[Old School 737]

I have seen there 747 parked on the ramp at Boeing Field for the last few months. I thought it was parked untill they got up and started but it sounds like they have started and been stopped, by the feds!

 

[tk855]

I spoke with one of their employees about 3 weeks ago and they were just gearing up for proving runs. If his schedule stayed intact, they would have started the runs about the fourth week of April. I don't know how fast you can get your proving runs done, but with that type of operation I would think it wouldn't be this soon. That would also be the reason for the Feds hanging around I would assume, but I don't really know. I agree with Draginass, I don't believe any company would be that reckless and negligent especially the guys running this place.

 

[B747Flyer]

I've got a hard time believing that a company is that reckless and arrogant, and would risk the lives of their aircrews like that . . . . . . . or, maybe I would these days.

Or maybe they are just doing their FAA Proving Flights and going through a lot of "test" scenarios. They are not certified yet...

 

[heilhaavir]

I tend to agree with B747Flyer.

 

[Cassive Mock]

I saw the airplane in JFK on Saturday. I assumed it was working, but...?

 

[Kikuchiyo]

Or maybe they are just doing their FAA Proving Flights and going through a lot of "test" scenarios. They are not certified yet...

Apparently they are now certified. From the FAA site:

CARGO 360 INC FAA Designator Code Q4TA Certificate Number Q4TA919K
Years In Business 0
Certificate Issue Date 05/11/2006 1. SUPPLEMENTAL (CARGO ONLY)

 

[evenexch]

They are up and running. I have a friend there and everything is complete and they are in business.

 

[Thedude]

Anybody seen the payscale and benefit package yet?

 

[mdanno808]

$2000/month until completion of IOE, then 67.50/hour with a 60 hour guarantee. It is now 325 for the drug test paid for by the applicant. The biggest kicker is the training contract. If your employment is terminated (which according to their conditional offer of employment can happen at any time, and for any reason, without explanation) you still owe the training bond. Even if the company were to go out of business, you would still owe the training bond, according to their administrative people.

I wouldn't work their unless you were really hard up for a job.

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[Superpilot92]

saw them in EWR today. First time i have ever seen them there, but then again i am not based in EWR so maybe they are there alot.

 

[B747Flyer]

saw them in EWR today. First time i have ever seen them there, but then again i am not based in EWR so maybe they are there alot.

Saw their -200F in ICN yesterday. It must be their 2nd or 3rd A/C...