Ahhh!!! I can't take it anymore/SECURITY

[RichardFitzwell]

Re: R Fitzwell

You being a pilot and a supervisor should have some voice in profiling and hurry it up.

Are you trying to be ignorant?

I am done trying to convince you. You seem to be very concerned about the money being spent on airport security and don't have any suggestions other than your 'profile first and shoot to kill later bull sh!t.'

Are you really even a pilot? I will guarantee our government spends far more money in less productive areas than airport security. As a pilot you should be all for better security.

 

[1900laker]

Hey Charles,

Not just the screeners, but the caterers, mechanics, ramp personnel. Many airports still have these employees accessing the airport with no screening whatsoever. I won't name the airport for security reasons, but the only thing between the street and the tarmac, is a gate in the fence, with one of those 5 digit cyphers, and we all know you can figure those out pretty quick, or set up a little surveilance to find the combo. Pilot uniforms? Try coveralls. It once again brings it home that if our security screening is not 100% effective (as it has proven not to be), then you have to take security on the plane; airmarshalls and armed pilots as a last line of defense.

 

[RichardFitzwell]

Perhaps I missed an address to this point earlier, (and while it's not exactly related to screening of flight crews, it is quite pertinent to security in general) but who screens the screeners? Yes, this is another Catch-22 type element, but when the aforementioned screeners show up to work in the morning and are the first ones there, (in the cases of those airports which may not operate 24/7) how is there any guarantee that they won't become agents to smuggle items across the invisible line?
It seems to me that the reason for screening pilots is ridiculous, however, it would seem relatively easy to get hired as a screener and funnel things through. No?
-charlie

charlie,

I can't speak for all airports but where I work, screeners screen screeners. We all have had our backgrounds checked by an outside company and we all have clean records. Also all screeners are under very strict supervision.

Everytime I leave security I must pass back through the same screening process you do. I have metal shanks in my shoes so they must come off and be run through x-ray separate. I have found that by walking through the metal detector slower than normal, I have better chance of getting through without sounding the alarm. Again, this may be airport specific.