Age 67 and beyond

[Yuppyguppy]

I love the safety banner, lets make the retirement age 55 to be really save if 57 is the break point. If we really want to do this retirement age correctly in the name of safety, we take the age of pilot that experiences an in-flight incapacitation, say a heart attack at age 47, and that becomes the new retirement age. This is all about get out of my seat. BTW the accident report you posted was a part 91, there is no data for over 60 in 121, but there is a fair amount of data for under 60 making bad choices.

Shut up and retire you old man.

 

[UAL-GSO]

Shut up and retire you old man.

I don't think anyone wants his seat.

 

[Andy]

BTW the accident report you posted was a part 91, there is no data for over 60 in 121, but there is a fair amount of data for under 60 making bad choices.

And your point? The pilots were flying a simple approach in instrument conditions. It was the first flight of the day, in a G3. This wasn't a couple of weekend flyers out flying a Cessna 172.
If you're trying to represent flying a G3 on an instrument approach as something more complex than part 121 flying, good luck with that.

As for your statement that there's no part 121 data for pilots over 60, that's technically correct; however there used to be no age limit for 1-30 seat aircraft flown under part 135. The CAMI study used data that included part 135 pilots over the age of 60. The FAA moved that flying from part 135 to part 121 and at the same time limited maximum age to 60. So while the flying was part 135, it was really 121 with no age restriction. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-1995-12-20/pdf/95-30545.pdf

I also notice that you never mention age-related cognitive decline. Or any other age related deterioration of physical abilities.

 

[ATRCA]

I don't think anyone wants his seat.

^^^this^^^^

He trolls the "Major" board yet he's never worked for one.

 

[TMMT]

We voiced a "collective heck no" last time, too. I'm still sitting right seat next to a bunch of old, decrepit rednecks. Hopefully, my airline will be shut down soon, and said rednecks will end up nose first on the street where they belong. So will I, of course, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make in hopes that it will teach grandpas elsewhere to take what they can and run rather than stick around for boat #25, wife #7, Harley #29 and Corvette #11.

So I'm a bit curious is the union position on age limits about safety, or about the numbers of stripes you can show off at the hotel bar on layovers?

Sounds to me like you are just angry that you'll have to wait your turn to sign for the aircraft...

 

[pilotyip]

^^^this^^^^

He trolls the "Major" board yet he's never worked for one.

The 121 age rule does not only apply to the "majors", but to the supplementals also. I am been fortunate in my career to have never been lucky enough to get hired and furloughed buy a major

 

[UAL-GSO]

So I'm a bit curious is the union position on age limits about safety, or about the numbers of stripes you can show off at the hotel bar on layovers?

Sounds to me like you are just angry that you'll have to wait your turn to sign for the aircraft...

Crap - he figured out the conspiracy! You damn kids...

 

[atpcliff]

CANADA does not have an age limit for pilots. Europe is next...about 5-7 yrs ago Europe formed an Age 70 committee to study changing their system.

Our age limit will dissapear, it is just a question of when...

cliff
BWI

 

[emspilot 01]

Age 67 and beyond...

So I'm a bit curious is the union position on age limits about safety, or about the numbers of stripes you can show off at the hotel bar on layovers?

Sounds to me like you are just angry that you'll have to wait your turn to sign for the aircraft...

I think all First Officers aspire to become Captains. Most younger pilots will sell their soul for aviation. That's the big difference between older and younger pilots...:laugh: