Age 60 F/E's

[1st Overnite]

So if pilots won't get the waiver to fly to 65 if they are already over 60, does that mean that the over 60 retreads will retire? Or will they stick around and cry until things go their way?

 

[Falconjet]

Over 60 FEs haven't retired. There is no reason to think that they won't come back to a flying seat. Which and how that happens will likely be determined by a negotiated change to the CBA.

I imagine it will take a year or so to figure all that out while they decide if/when/how to change the rule.

FJ

 

[1st Overnite]

From what I read, if you are over 60, regardless of if you are still employed as an F/E, you can't go back to flying. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Falconjet]

Well I can't do that, and at this point neither can anybody else since the proposed rule hasn't even come out yet. The reason I THINK that over 60 ropes will be able to move back up is because the FAA and the unions are mostly considering major PASSENGER airlines as they contemplate this rule change. So when they say there won't be any way for someone over 60 to come back its because in their mind that person has RETIRED.

That is going to be a sticky issue and in order to eliminate some of the many lawsuits sure to be attempted by over 60 retirees, they say there will be language to prevent that from happening.

So, unless the Administrator and all the other suits pushing for this change are smarter than I give them credit for, they have simply (for now) overlooked the fact that there are in fact several hundred (if not thousands) of over 60 pilots flying for part 121 carriers who HAVE NOT retired. I don't know how you could prevent them from coming back to a flying seat unless you are able to negotiate something different through the CBA.

Again, I HOPE that I am wrong, and the Administrator and folks on the change committee ARE aware of all these over 60 guys who haven't retired yet and are still specifically preventing them from returning to a flying seat.

That will be a hard fought battle I am sure, and ANYBODY that purports to know the answer to your question is full of something brown. There will be all kinds of speculation in advance of a change on that very issue, but we won't know how it will shake out until the rule is published, the suits have a chance to negotiate the change, and the lawyers get the chance to make millions in fees telling us what the law really meant to say.

Of course these are just my opinions.

FJ

 

[Vne]

The rope's have not retired.
so they can bid what a contract or regulation allows. Thats my guess.

 

[ultrarunner]

Maybe the company will simply give then the money their sen. will hold and not retrain them as they will only be on property a few more years.