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[jbDC9]

Harrumph!

"I didn't get a harrumph outta that guy..."

"Give the Governor a harrumph!"

But seriously, with 300 TT and 23 ME, that dude's not even qualified to be a CFI, what a joke.

 

[PDH]

We were all 300 hour wonder pilots at one point. Don't you remember?

Yep, but not while flying your wife and kids around.

 

[AerroMatt]

"I didn't get a harrumph outta that guy..."

"Give the Governor a harrumph!"

But seriously, with 300 TT and 23 ME, that dude's not even qualified to be a CFI, what a joke.

Hehe, I love Blazing Saddles!

Question is, would you want to ride in the back of a CRJ being flown by an FO with 300TT and 23 ME? I for one wouldn't want to period, and I sure hope the FA's pass out barf bags to all pax, cause its gonna be a roller coaster ride once the autopilot goes off.

 

[con-pilot]

If no one else will say it Gorilla I will, excellent post.

I have flown with mix of all civilian and straight out of the military pilots in my career. Some of the worse pilots I have ever flown with have been military and some of the best pilots I have flown with have been military pilots and vice a versa.

However, bottom line is that a 300 hour military pilot is usually highly superior to a 300 hour civilian pilot. Now that being said when these fictional pilots reach 5 to 6,000 hours there is little or no difference in ability.



(But I have to say I did fly with two military pilots, one Air Force (KC-135) the other Navy (P-3), that I never could figure out how they made it through flight training.)

 

[sqwkvfr]

Let mesa put that in their advertising.....

A friend who works for MESA told me that they recieved a grand total of 17 pilot applications last month.

 

[Trogdor]

The word is out about

My
Employer
Sucks
A$$

 

[CherryBomb]

Ive commented about low time pilots sholdnt be flying pax, problem is I did it in the regional board, HA! Boy did I get b!tched at!!

You just cant compare to low time civy pilots to low time military pilots. Selection aside, It would be like saying the Mesa Pilot Development Program is as good of training as the YEARS military folks get... HA HA HA HA

 

[IP076]

Question is, would you want to ride in the back of a CRJ being flown by an FO with 300TT and 23 ME? I for one wouldn't want to period, and I sure hope the FA's pass out barf bags to all pax, cause its gonna be a roller coaster ride once the autopilot goes off.

I personally think this is yet another dumb comment. Like you would even know how many hours the FO has...I bet you dont go to the cockpit and ask everytime.

And don't say you avoid airlines that hire low time guys...because if they're flying an RJ, they hire low time guys. Not saying anything other than most regional airlines have a way of hiring some low time guys, internships, bridge program, internal rec, whatever.

Point being, that 300 hour FO passed the same initial Indoc, Systems, Simulator, and IOE training that the 1200 hour guy did.

I don't think most people expect an FO to be "Most" experienced. Part of the job of a Captain is to provide a new FO with information, and experiences.

Point 2: I'll fly on a Regional Jet and not worry a bit about this, what I'll worry about is how gosh darn uncomfortable the dang seats are!

Oh yeah, like I mentioned somewhere on here before...can we please stop beating the horse, he's already dead.

 

[DX Rick]

15 Bucks an Hour to fly a 25 million dollar airliner with 50-90 paying passengers? Wish I could say YGBSM on this one! Now I understand his desire to fly heavy iron, but why on earth do it for peanuts? Who's paying his bills, Mom and Dad? That's way below a living wage. I'm certain he qualifies for food stamps. Harrumph!

So it's ok for a guy with high time to go to a regional and accept those crap wages?
If they're going to pay garbage wages, let the kid go in there, build his time and move onto a NetJets, CS or Flight Options where he can actually earn a living.

 

[SIG600]

So it's ok for a guy with high time to go to a regional and accept those crap wages?
If they're going to pay garbage wages, let the kid go in there, build his time and move onto a NetJets, CS or Flight Options where he can actually earn a living.

Or have a higher expectation of what you're worth, and stop working for these bullsh1t wages.

 

[AerroMatt]

I personally think this is yet another dumb comment. Like you would even know how many hours the FO has...I bet you dont go to the cockpit and ask everytime.

And don't say you avoid airlines that hire low time guys...because if they're flying an RJ, they hire low time guys. Not saying anything other than most regional airlines have a way of hiring some low time guys, internships, bridge program, internal rec, whatever.

Point being, that 300 hour FO passed the same initial Indoc, Systems, Simulator, and IOE training that the 1200 hour guy did.

I don't think most people expect an FO to be "Most" experienced. Part of the job of a Captain is to provide a new FO with information, and experiences.

Point 2: I'll fly on a Regional Jet and not worry a bit about this, what I'll worry about is how gosh darn uncomfortable the dang seats are!

Oh yeah, like I mentioned somewhere on here before...can we please stop beating the horse, he's already dead.

My last flight on an RJ was: Power in, Pitch up... Power out, Pitch down... Power in, Pitch up... Power out, Pitch down... Power in, Pitch up... Power out, Pitch down... repeated about 15 times accompanied by a dutch roll of 15 degrees left to right. Power off, float... float... float... SLAM!!! Max Brakes!!! My biggest concern was seeing the centerline waay off to my left, I was wondering if we were kicking up dirt into the engine from the right main gear.

Deplaning, one passenger asked, "Did we land, or were we shot down?"

I'm not saying a 300hr pilot can't do the job, but I've seen some who could use more instruction on finesse.

All that aside, you neglected to comment on doing such a job for $15 bucks an hour. I'd rather see my tax money go to something other than food stamps for FO's

 

[IP076]

My last flight on an RJ was: Power in, Pitch up... Power out, Pitch down... Power in, Pitch up... Power out, Pitch down... Power in, Pitch up... Power out, Pitch down... repeated about 15 times accompanied by a dutch roll of 15 degrees left to right. Power off, float... float... float... SLAM!!! Max Brakes!!! My biggest concern was seeing the centerline waay off to my left, I was wondering if we were kicking up dirt into the engine from the right main gear.

Deplaning, one passenger asked, "Did we land, or were we shot down?"

I'm not saying a 300hr pilot can't do the job, but I've seen some who could use more instruction on finesse.

All that aside, you neglected to comment on doing such a job for $15 bucks an hour. I'd rather see my tax money go to something other than food stamps for FO's

I'm all with you on that 15/hr thing...its bull****! That's why I'm happily working as a flight instructor making more than just about any regional FO does....(at 4th or 5th year pay).

I've seen some 1000-2000 hour pilots that could use some more instruction on finesse also!

 

[urflyingme?!]

My last flight on an RJ was: Power in, Pitch up... Power out, Pitch down... Power in, Pitch up... Power out, Pitch down... Power in, Pitch up... Power out, Pitch down... repeated about 15 times accompanied by a dutch roll of 15 degrees left to right. Power off, float... float... float... SLAM!!! Max Brakes!!! My biggest concern was seeing the centerline waay off to my left, I was wondering if we were kicking up dirt into the engine from the right main gear.

Deplaning, one passenger asked, "Did we land, or were we shot down?"

I'm not saying a 300hr pilot can't do the job, but I've seen some who could use more instruction on finesse.

All that aside, you neglected to comment on doing such a job for $15 bucks an hour. I'd rather see my tax money go to something other than food stamps for FO's

Dutch roll? Come on...

 

[urflyingme?!]

This IS a dead horse....

Mesa did hire about 92%, and they DID fail out 40-60% of the class, and out of most classes they have.

I don't think that you will find anyone there who thinks that they are as good as a fighter jock etc. What you will find is a well run school that prepares it's students for a specific position, that's it. I'd like to think that they do a fair job. It's not NASA and it's fairly small as well...

PS, They've been doing this for over 10 yrs...

 

[AerroMatt]

This IS a dead horse....

Mesa did hire about 92%, and they DID fail out 40-60% of the class, and out of most classes they have.

I don't think that you will find anyone there who thinks that they are as good as a fighter jock etc. What you will find is a well run school that prepares it's students for a specific position, that's it. I'd like to think that they do a fair job. It's not NASA and it's fairly small as well...

PS, They've been doing this for over 10 yrs...

And they've been paying them below minimum wage for that long too, I'll wager.

 

[SIG600]

Oooh... ZING!