ACLU suing Jeppesen!

[PlaneDrvr]

This should clarify the meaning??

Can anyone tell me what the A in ACLU stands for? Oh yeh, that's right.

I believe it stands for the "Anarchist & Criminals Liberty Union"!!!!

And then you also have that gov't agency to assist; the TSA - the "Terrorist Support Agency"!!

For what its worth??

DA

 

[AV80R]

Aclu

Can anyone tell me what the A in ACLU stands for? Oh yeh, that's right.

Believe A stands for Allah?

C for Communist? (you know, the grounding ACLU fathers' ideology)

THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION
UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTHS ABOUT THE ORIGINS
By: Roderick T. Beaman​

Probably like most other libertarians, I have come to this philosophy from the Right end of the political spectrum. Over the years, I have been very critical and, I must admit hostile, to The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). That said, our movement must welcome all to our cause. We have been receiving interest also, for quite a while, from the Left end of the spectrum.

Many libertarians have found reason to work with ACLU on certain issues and there is no doubt that there is firm common ground on which we stand. In those matters, we can join them. I have been having some exchanges with members of two libertarian e-groups and decided to do some more intense study of ACLU. I wish I could say that this mollified my feelings but it made it worse. What I found out about its origins horrified me. It was the political goal of many of the founders of ACLU to destroy this country and everything it stood for.

ACLU was founded on January 19, 1920. It grew out of a predecessor group, The National Civil Liberties Bureau which in turn had grown out of the American Union Against Militarism, and a soiree that was held in New York City and attended by just about every radical from the thriving New York scene of the time. The founders numbered over 60 but the bulk of the work was assumed by the following core:



Roger Nash Baldwin - the founding, long time, director of ACLU. Born to wealth, at the time of the founding, he was deeply involved in the communist movement. As late as 1935, he gave a speech stating that his political vision was communist. During the 1940s, Baldwin would participate in the purging of communists from ACLU, against a lot of opposition, and, in the 1950s, endorsed the work of Sen. Joseph McCarthy.

Norman Thomas - a Presbyterian minister and radical socialist who advocated the total abolition of capitalism. He was also a eugenicist who warned against the excessive reproduction of undesirables. Thomas was a six time Socialist Party presidential candidate. Also a committed pacifist, he joined Charles Lindbergh's American First Committee to keep us out of World War II. Then as now, politics made very strange bedfellows. He joined Baldwin in the 1940s purge of communists from ACLU.

John Haynes Holmes - a Unitarian minister, a pacifist, socialist and also a founder of The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
L. Hollingsworth Wood - a Quaker, pacifist and a co-founder of the Urban League.. I could find nothing that indicated his politics.

John Nevin Sayre - an ordained Episcopal minister, Sayre was a pacifist and believed that Jesus Christ was also. I could discern no other political agenda. Sayre was likely the most sincere of ACLU's founders.

The following is a random selection of others who were among the founders:

Crystal Eastman - pacifist, socialist and feminist. She had been active as a supporter of the radical International Workers of the World (I.W.W.), a radical group with very strong ties to communism. She would have been in the core group but for an illness at the time of ACLU's inception.

Helen Keller - a communist. This astonished me. Libertarians have long maintained that you can't believe what you learn from government sponsored schools and Hollywood. Never was that better illustrated than in the case of Helen Keller. 'The Miracle Worker' told us that she was a great teacher and struggled after being left blind and deaf from a childhood fever. For that, she must be admired.

But during the early 1920s, she wrote and spoke flatteringly about the two competing and emerging German variations of socialism, the national socialism of Adolf Hitler and international revolutionary socialism, or communism.

Radicalized at Radcliffe, she addressed others, as she was often addressed, as 'Comrade'. Ironically, under the eugenics of German National Socialism, Keller would likely have been judged as flawed and exterminated for having been so vulnerable to have been left damaged by her illness.

Elizabeth Flynn Gurley - a communist, she later became chairman of CPUSA.

Felix Frankfurter - a social reformer, became interested in ACLU when pacifists and socialists were being harassed by the government. Frankfurter would later be appointed to the Supreme Court by Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He was known for judicial restraint and deference to the legislative and executive branches, which may have endeared him to FDR who had already steamrollered congress into obeisance. Later, this attitude would irritate liberals who looked to the courts for the furtherance of their causes.

John Dewey - radical socialist educator who believed that the function of the educational system was to train future agents for the goals of the state. His educational theories dominate our system today.

Clarence Darrow - lionized by Hollywood in 'Inherit The Wind' and the Left for defending teacher John Scopes for teaching evolution. I could find nothing about his politics other than that he was a social reformer. He was an agnostic.

Jane Addams - social activist, feminist, and pacifist. She was also a founder of the NAACP.

Upton Sinclair - socialist and author of many novels. He began his career by writing ethnic jokes and mini-novels. 'The Jungle' , a full novel, was an expose of disgusting conditions in the Chicago meat packing industry. It led to the Pure Food and Drug Act which established the FDA. Not even his supporters maintain that he produced anything of literary value. His stories were long on sensationalism and short on character and plot.

A. J. Muste - at the time, a communist who was committed to revolutionary politics. He later later became a Christian pacifist after a trip to the Soviet Union and a meeting with Leon Trotsky. Many associates maintained though that he never completely abandoned his attachment to Marxism.

Harry F. Ward - a lifetime communist, he authored "Soviet Democracy" and "Soviet Spirit," two pro-Communist books.

Albert DeSilver - radical socialist attorney who had worked with the I.W.W. He willed his entire fortune to ACLU.

This is the cast of characters; in a steering committee of five, one communist, two socialists and three pacifists. In a random selection of eleven additional members, four communists, five radical socialists, two pacifists, two feminists and two social reformers. It's not difficult to discern an ideologic tilt to the organization.

And it got worse afterwards. By the 1940s, so many ACLU members were communists and members of other radical and communist organizations that Roger Baldwin grew alarmed at the attention that American security agencies were focusing on it. Aided by others, such as Norman Thomas, he led a purge of communists from the top leadership.

It was indeed unfortunate that pacifists had to make common cause with communists and others at the time because their movement was forever tainted by it. Many communists agitated for pacifism to facilitate communist insurgencies across the world. For them it was a means to the end of accomplishing their Nirvana, the total subjugation of humanity to the communist jackboot.

"Published originally at EtherZone.com : republication allowed with this notice and hyperlink intact."

Dr. Roderick T. Beaman is a board certified family osteopathic physician who practices in Jacksonville, Florida. He is a published poet, has composed a blues song and is trying to have his first novel published. It deals with the dangers of big government. He offers anyone who wishes to dignify the trash he writes with a comment, to do so. He is a regular columnist for Ether Zone.

Published in the September 16, 2004 issue of Ether Zone.
Copyright © 1997 - 2004 Ether Zone.

 

[Jonny Sacko]

Anybody ever notice, everyone of those snake menial lawyers looks uglier than animals. It's funny, all of the ugly people hang out and sue people. I'm not picking, just look at the photo's. Wow, no wonder they're alone, and whining.

 

[TWA Dude]

As a card-carrying member of the ACLU I must question the wisdom of going after Jepp for this kind of thing. I'll let them know (not that I have any influence).

And to the guy who posted that one of the ACLU founders was a commie: the ACLU is quite obviously not a communist organization since communism goes agains civil liberties. Nice try.

 

[Jonny Sacko]

I hope you're embarrassed about the card carrying. Those idiots have and are continually trying to ruin this country. Suing every American to make themselves rich, and trying to make us change to fit the minorities is definitely on the way out. We're all getting pissed enough, stopping the cash to those idiots, except for people like you is an excellent start. You should be ashamed of yourself. Unless you are one of the recent immigrants that feels everyone in America should change for you.

 

[MSNFlier]

yup...kill the lawyers...

Until the FSDO busts you for a totally BS "violation"...then your lawyer is the best friend you've ever had. Yup...kill the lawyers...until a corrupt cop decides to stop you for "touching the centerline," after you've had two (really) beers with your crew after a flight and are on the way home to your wife and kids. Yup, you won't need that lawyer to defend yourself because cops never lie, right? Nope, they don't (ever heard the term, "testa-lying?" That's what some cops call testifying - under oath, that is).

Know that little ol' thing they read on Cops every night, in every cop TV show, and to you when you get busted? Your Miranda rights? "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you at interrogation time and at court."

Yup, kill the lawyers.

Good luck with that next alleged law violation that, without competent counsel advocating for you, will kill your career. Good luck with that. Because, you know, if the government accuses some of a violation of law, they must be guilty.

 

[AV80R]

As a card-carrying member of the ACLU I must question the wisdom of going after Jepp for this kind of thing.

That’s funny, I remember traveling in the former eastern block countries (including the Soviet Union) and every now and then we’d run into some “card-carrying Party members” – amazing, you are even using their terminology, Comrade.

I'll let them know (not that I have any influence).

- Oh, yeah, I’m sure they care.

And to the guy who posted that one of the ACLU founders was a commie: the ACLU is quite obviously not a communist organization since communism goes agains civil liberties. Nice try.

They defend civil liberties only when it weakens the country. Since you are a proud card-carrying member, why don’t you educate us on the backgrounds of the people who created ACLU? If you say they were not communists, you’re either lying to yourself or have not explored the past of the organization you belong to.
Granted, today’s ACLU politburo is not as openly anti-American as in the past; however the main goal of turning this country into a leftist bastion and eventually into a borderless socialist utopia has not changed. The main difference is the original ACLU wanted to make those changes overnight, today's ACLU has way more patience but just as much determination. Personally I consider today’s ACLU top brass modern versions of yesterday’s Quislings.

yup...kill the lawyers...

Has nothing to do with killing the lawyers. There are plenty of outstanding lawyers who do not belong to ACLU.

Lawyers’ job is to defend their clients - ACLU’s main purpose is to rewrite the history and make Americans ashamed of being Americans. and undoubtedly they excel at finding dirt on America.

 

[I Hate Freight]

And to the guy who posted that one of the ACLU founders was a commie: the ACLU is quite obviously not a communist organization since communism goes agains civil liberties. Nice try.

The last thing the America-Hating Communist & Liberals Union is concerned about is civil liberties. They are a radical, neo-communist organization and extremely dangerous.

FACT: The ACLU's founder WAS a communist. That is indisputable.

 

[AV80R]

FACT: The ACLU's founder WAS a communist. That is indisputable.

Amen!

Oops, now I'll get sued!

 

[blueridge71]

My already high respect for Jeppesen has just been increased.