acey pilot propaganda sight. SKYW pilots have lowest pay in industry, so should you!

[FishandFly]

Check this out. The new BS propaganda site has this excel sheet showing that alpa is wanting pay increases above industry average while skywest is the lowest paid regional.

This was most likely put together in Utah as no one in our G.O. knows how to use a spreadsheet, so what do you skyw guys think about it? Is this accurate?


http://www.aceypilot.com/uploads/Udated_Posted_DCI_Carrier_Rates-_Oct.08__v2-ASA_.xls

 

[Rogue5]

Check your PMs...

 

[Airboss]

Isn't the comair contract now unratified and has to be renegotiated at new rates?
Why does the company keep putting Mesa in these graphs?

 

[Sinca3]

Isn't it ironic that this web site appeared miraculously the same day new negotiations dates arrived!?!?! Tuesday of last week the mediator informed ALPA of thier decision and ALPA couldn't release the news until ASA management was informed.....through their attorney. This web site and the companies response magically arrived at the same time on friday 11/17.....Pure propaganda folks!

 

["GO AROUND"]

Same ol stupid info put out by the company. Hourly rates are only one part of pilot cost. SKW pilots have lower payrates but make more per month because of their credits. Even with higher payrates our contract now is not as costly as others.

 

[USCtrojan]

Same ol stupid info put out by the company. Hourly rates are only one part of pilot cost. SKW pilots have lower payrates but make more per month because of their credits. Even with higher payrates our contract now is not as costly as others.

Just flew with a relatively new guy (Been here just over a year). He said Danny Robertson welcomed them in their new hire class and then spewed something about "after 9/11 pilots wages and expectations must be significantly lower." That 's disturbing on a number of levels. Has anyone else had this experience?

Trojan

 

[ASARJMan]

Danny Robertson is a friggin' loser, always has been, always will! He even has the nerve to show up at the airport now. Danny Boy thinks if pilot costs come down, his little recruiting job will be saved. Time for him to be put out to pasture! He was the most pathetic chief pilot ever at ASA. If ASA wants to cuts costs, get rid of his overpaid arse!

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[FightingIrish]

Check this out. The new BS propaganda site has this excel sheet showing that alpa is wanting pay increases above industry average while skywest is the lowest paid regional.

This was most likely put together in Utah as no one in our G.O. knows how to use a spreadsheet, so what do you skyw guys think about it? Is this accurate?


http://www.aceypilot.com/uploads/Udated_Posted_DCI_Carrier_Rates-_Oct.08__v2-ASA_.xls

I believe the rates are correct. Everyone still believe ALPA is being reasonable? These rates compared with the Bfund retirement look a little bit over the top to me.

 

[FightingIrish]

Isn't the comair contract now unratified and has to be renegotiated at new rates?
Why does the company keep putting Mesa in these graphs?

Because Mesa is a competitor. See all those mesa planes over at D?

 

[~~~^~~~]

Danny Boy thinks if pilot costs come down, his little recruiting job will be saved. Time for him to be put out to pasture!

While at the Air Inc. fair the recruiters said they were also at ASA to "move airplanes around." That sounds more like the Company is getting its own little Strike Preparedness Committee together.

I've got no problem with the over 60 set working at ASA. Experience can bring some good ideas to the table. However, recruiting might be best done by someone closer to the age and inclinations of the recruits. But ASA doesn't have sims to train new hires anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

What does everyone think of the cross qual and over ride idea on the 200/700/900 that SkyWest just proposed? I would like to see the cost data on that proposal with the trip-duty rigs and other bennies the SkyWest guys get.

 

[Beantown]

Because Mesa is a competitor. See all those mesa planes over at D?

And I am sure that your ALPA reps are reminding the company that both CHQ and Mesa's contracts are 4+ yrs old and both expire in 2007. Both were signed right after 9/11. Not exactly "market rates". -Bean

 

[Speedtape]

While at the Air Inc. fair the recruiters said they were also at ASA to "move airplanes around." That sounds more like the Company is getting its own little Strike Preparedness Committee together.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT!

Most of these guys were not in ALPA, when they were on the seniority list.
In addition, some of these guys, including Avery, were used to move aircraft around for Comair during the Comair strike!!!

 

[Bizjet]

I believe the rates are correct. Everyone still believe ALPA is being reasonable? These rates compared with the Bfund retirement look a little bit over the top to me.

Oh so you would just give them away? You would be really great as CNC Chairman. We would have Mesa pilots hating us for under cutting them. Maybe a better idea would be to trade these for something else? DUH!!!!!

Maybe change your screen name to I surrender Irish?

 

["GO AROUND"]

I believe the rates are correct. Everyone still believe ALPA is being reasonable? These rates compared with the Bfund retirement look a little bit over the top to me.

My argument to the company is if rates are what they don't want to increase then fine. Give me the ability to increase my pay with time and a half for picking up open time, rigs, etc... Just like SKW. If I want to make more money then I should make that decision each month and not have it tied just to payrates.

 

[601Pilot]

My argument to the company is if rates are what they don't want to increase then fine. Give me the ability to increase my pay with time and a half for picking up open time, rigs, etc... Just like SKW. If I want to make more money then I should make that decision each month and not have it tied just to payrates.

Unfortunately, our management is not smart enough to figure this out.

 

[ASARJMan]

My argument to the company is if rates are what they don't want to increase then fine. Give me the ability to increase my pay with time and a half for picking up open time, rigs, etc... Just like SKW. If I want to make more money then I should make that decision each month and not have it tied just to payrates.

LJ when she was Vice MEC along with the MEC Chair didn't want time and a half when it was offered by EP!

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

Fwiw...

Well, the override is for block only, so all the other guarantees are still based on "base-rate" (CRJ200). Let's see, just looking at last paycheck and figuring 75% of my block was in 700 this year:

Current block as of Oct 31: 845 (therefore 634 in 700)
Current YTD earnings for regular & OT flying (i.e. no tng/vac/usr/MBIP/OPR) as of Oct 31): $85,200.

Since everything except actual block remains the same (rigs differential, user/vac time, per diem, training/dh/cnx pay), my cost difference to the company would have been current rate plus raise plus override times 700 block time minus the current rate: 67.27(1.01)(1.05)(634) - 67.27(634) = $2579 (a little more perhaps, since my rate in OT flying would have been a bit higher). Still, safe to say $2500 or less for most of the pilots as SKYW or ~$4.5 million.