ABX Mega Proffer

[abxaviator]

LJ,

That 76 side letter is still a stick in our eye.

Except a lot of guys LIKE the side letter, they get 4 extra days off.

 

[abxaviator]

The most junior guy awarded 767 FO was only #20 on the DC9 F/O list.

Most junior for the July class is #55 on the 9 FO list. Don't know about the rest.

 

[Clipperskip]

767 headed to IAI

Hi Guys,
Looks like the latest ex-DAL 767 is now headed to Israel for mod. Flightaware shows it departing KILN for LEVC Valencia, Spain tonight around 5:30 pm. The more the merrier! Does anyone remember the N number on this one. I assume it was the one in DAL paint that has been sitting in the hanger for the past two weeks. Perhaps getting ready for the flat panel mod too!

By the way guys, A lot of the Central and South American airports we have been going to for the past few years have been special certification airports requiring a "checkout" by a standards pilot. That might be the case with the Brazilian trip to Vitoria. We did this with MGGT (Guatemala City), as well as MMMX (Mexico City) and TIST (St. Thomas). In that case there would be a standards pilot on every trip with a new captain who has not been down there yet. If the trip is scheduled the way I understand it goes KMIA-TTPP (Port of Spain)-SBVT (Vitoria). That is about 9 hours down there and 9 back. Ouch. I think they are staging crews in Trinidad.

 

[LarryinTN]

Just so I follow your logic

It's not my logic. That came directly from Friday's "bottom's up" meeting. Management flying is an issue that is being addressed in negotiations. Hopefully they work out some agreement that both sides can live with.

Regarding the cash, I certainly wouldn't want to be handed a briefcase with $15,000 cash for which I was responsible. I'd much rather have a management pilot along to guard the case.

I don't think that the side letter is really that big of a problem. There are a lot of guys who like those lines so they end up being quite popular. I think the current e-board has certainly learned from that situation that firm ending dates are necessary. Look at the recent letters on the transcon and now on the IROs. They all are for very limited periods of time and offer a way out if the union so chooses.

 

[LarryinTN]

Most junior for the July class is #55 on the 9 FO list. Don't know about the rest.

Well, the list I have, then, must be wrong. J.M., #55, isn't listed. If they'd just get the awards posted on the web site this wouldn't be so confusing...

 

[penguin22]

I don't think that the side letter is really that big of a problem. There are a lot of guys who like those lines so they end up being quite popular.

You got that right! Just looked at July awards; the non standard lines went pretty senior

 

[Sporto]

Unfortunately Wrong

My understanding is that the three about-to-be-furloughed PFEs who are going to attempt upgrade will get added to existing classes above and beyond the proffer amounts. The six DC9 F/O vacancies would then be able to take the four S/Os plus the two additional PFEs who were not on the furlough list.


That was my understanding as well......Not true. Only one of the four S/O's made the proffer. Apparently, the PFE's got a choice of whether to go the surpluss route or the proffer route, and they chose the proffer. What's the advantage of going the proffer route other than bumping 3 S/O's?

 

[two(2)%]

That was my understanding as well......Not true. Only one of the four S/O's made the proffer. Apparently, the PFE's got a choice of whether to go the surpluss route or the proffer route, and they chose the proffer. What's the advantage of going the proffer route other than bumping 3 S/O's?

The PFE's who took these proffers are hedging they'll make it through. They still get their "silver bullet". After they fail the "wreck" ride, they still get one more shot on their way out the door. That's what Jimmy "the finger" Finfinger is doing right now. Condolences to the unlucky SO's. I hope someday soon We can get them back.

 

[MJH767]

Was the second to the last guy on the DC9 FO proffer on the street? I couldn't find him on any active "seat list"?? And it looks like one DC8 Capt downbid?
I thought you couldn't do thaty?

 

[ABXbooger]

The second to last guy is in DC-8 standards.

I wish the pilots had several (read 3) chances to pass a checkride...