ABX furloughs 12

[freighthound]

Hey Sporto if you read the post I didn't deny you information might be right I didn't buy that it was happening to you. Your prior post have been such flamerbait that I'm still not convinced you are who you say you are. You've cried wolf so many times it falls on deaf ears. Even so I certainly feel for all those being furloughed even you Sporto. These are crap times at ABX.

 

[Sporto]

Hey Sporto I am sorry to here you are getting furloughed again. This business sucks. Do not supose your friendly Chief Pilot gave you an expected length of the furlough?

Thank you. Getting thrown under the bus is bad once but even worse twice.

No info on when returning. I'm guessing 3-5 with the pattern of reduced flying via DHL, never if HR 65 passes.

 

[Bitter]

I'm guessing 3-5 with the pattern of reduced flying via DHL, never if HR 65 passes.[/quote]

I asssume you mean years not month's?

 

[Sporto]

I'm guessing 3-5 with the pattern of reduced flying via DHL, never if HR 65 passes.

I asssume you mean years not month's?[/quote]


Are you serious? Come on man. Yes, years.

 

[ABXbooger]

This really sucks for all you guys, especially the SO's, sorry to hear. Funny thing is the union just agreed with the company on allowing the OPF to increase in the 767...
There are some of us that will not allow this to go unnoticed, and continue to happen.

How about some of you stop and think about how much open flying and vacation buy backs you do. Cash in the bank off the back of some guy trying to feed his family? It happened once here, the junior guys will not let this happen again quietly.

And BS on the "I was furloughed too, so suck it up" crap. Where you furloughed because your fellow pilots couldn't make it on what their currrent salary was?

Good luck guys.

Booger

 

[2LT]

Opf?

Means what?

Haven't heard that before...

 

[aviatrix767]

Means what?

Haven't heard that before...

Open flying.

 

[maxpwrset]

Sorry to hear that Sporto. I did time in Hooterville, and still get the union flashmail. I was bummed to read the one today.

 

[abxaviator]

Here's the notice sent from the Union this afternoon:

Dear Crewmember,

The Company has notified the Union effective July 1, 2006, five second officers and seven flight engineers will be surplused/furloughed from their positions. The company has stated the purpose of this decision is to achieve a similar number of crewmembers in each of the three DC-8 cockpit positions. Currently, there are 30 DC-8 captains, 31 first officers, and 40 flight engineers/second officers.

This is distressing news for everyone, particularly those second officers who were recently recalled from furlough. The Union will be meeting with the Company this week to explore alternatives, including early retirement and additional charter work in the Miami Domicile.

 

[Bitter]

not a chance.......1224 has zip unity when it comes to money. furoughs will landslide....

 

[Bitter]

Danny G could not convince Stan K to buy Brian S a cup of cheap coffee. (check thre list) The junior will fry................'uck DHL......You want labor b's. You just bought it. Let your Bstar guys save the day. You just started hate I think you did not want!!

 

[Bitter]

Here's the notice sent from the Union this afternoon:

Dear Crewmember,

The Company has notified the Union effective July 1, 2006, five second officers and seven flight engineers will be surplused/furloughed from their positions. The company has stated the purpose of this decision is to achieve a similar number of crewmembers in each of the three DC-8 cockpit positions. Currently, there are 30 DC-8 captains, 31 first officers, and 40 flight engineers/second officers.

This is distressing news for everyone, particularly those second officers who were recently recalled from furlough. The Union will be meeting with the Company this week to explore alternatives, including early retirement and additional charter work in the Miami Domicile.


A War DHL can ill afford......good job, Bstar will save the day.......NO MORE RECOVERIES WHILE WE HAVE GUYS ON THE STREET. You Just screwed the one recource you had......GOOD JOB....!!!

 

[Clipperskip]

Furloughs?

Here's the notice sent from the Union this afternoon:

Dear Crewmember,

The Company has notified the Union effective July 1, 2006, five second officers and seven flight engineers will be surplused/furloughed from their positions. The company has stated the purpose of this decision is to achieve a similar number of crewmembers in each of the three DC-8 cockpit positions. Currently, there are 30 DC-8 captains, 31 first officers, and 40 flight engineers/second officers.

This is distressing news for everyone, particularly those second officers who were recently recalled from furlough. The Union will be meeting with the Company this week to explore alternatives, including early retirement and additional charter work in the Miami Domicile.



As sad as it is Bitter, the company can not continue to staff at the present levels in the DC-8 FE/SO seat. It makes no economic sense. I will be losing a crash pad mate and I am very sad about that. He will be sorely missed, fortunately for him he is a retired DC-8 Captain who returned to the panel for the past 4 1/2 years. The others are not so fortunate. The company presently has 41 FE/SO's but there is only 6 flying lines. Should they continue to carry 35 reserve FE/SO's when we are down to only two flying DC-8's, one ORD A/C and one MCI A/C? Hopefully the company and the union can work out a retirement package that makes sense for the PFE's and perhaps we can get the SO's in to DC-9 or B767 training. We have known that the DC-8's were going to be phased out for the past 12 years so it is not a total surprise. Just a painful one.

 

[Sporto]

Adios

Well now that the venting and binge drinking are over, I want to thank those individuals for your sincere regrets. I have enjoyed working with most all the group and will miss it terribly. Who knows, when one door closes another may open. I shall see.

I hope that no one else loses their job at ABX and the loss of routes/aircraft subsides. I'll probably hang around from time to time just to see how things are going but it's time to move on.

For those that are curious, I will probably not be pursuing another job/career in aviation. Given the industrys current status, there are too many other jobs that compensate more than most entry level flying jobs. They may not be as much fun but it's all about the moolah for me as opposed to some who would fly for peanuts just because they love to fly.

Lookout Monster, here I come.

Good luck and Good Bye

 

[abxaviator]

NO MORE RECOVERIES WHILE WE HAVE GUYS ON THE STREET.

Bitter, We ALREADY have guys still out from the original furlough. While I agree with your sentiment, it is not realistic for a reserve crew to refuse to accept an assignment to recover an Astar flight. That being said, I definitely agree that ways need to be found to get DHL's attention and REVERSE the slide! Are we to be a bunch of Lemings smiling, wearing the "full and complete uniform", flying on time and providing excellent service to our customer until ALL flying has been elimintated? At what point do we say enough is enough?