ABX Air

[Jurassic Jet]

I heard that once ABX is merged into Astar that there will be furloughs and that they will come from the ABX side of the house. This came from someone on the management side of DHL.
Is either or both Astar or ABX unionized? If so, I don't know how she could have that info?

I think it's time for your pee pee test. :uzi:

 

[PCL_128]

I'd get my resume in either way; this is (IMO) one of the best jobs out there, along with FDX/UPS.

Wish I could, but I don't know anyone that works there. Looks like it's time for me to start jumpseating through ILN to meet some ABX pilots.

 

[LarryinTN]

I heard that once ABX is merged into Astar that there will be furloughs and that they will come from the ABX side of the house. This came from someone on the management side of DHL.
Is either or both Astar or ABX unionized? If so, I don't know how she could have that info?

The ABX pilots are IBT, Astar pilots are ALPA.

She can't know such things. There are no annouced plans to merge the two airlines, both are indapendant companies. If there were some type of merge, likely with one airline buying the other, the seniority integration would be negotiated and possibly mediated. Astar is the only one of the two with any newhires in the past five years so those are the guys who'd end up at the bottom of any combined list.

With the 11 767s that are coming I don't see why there'd be a need for furloughs unless some new retirements are annouced.

 

[rican]

I remember seeing a press release awhile back stating ABX was going to retire a bunch (like 20 or so) aircraft. Did that ever happen or is it still planned?

 

[Clipperskip]

Astar A/C retirements

I believe the retirements you are talking about were really replacements. It involved retiring some older B727's and replaceing them with newer advanced B727's. I do not think Astar has retired any A/C however I understand a few B727's are in hot storage in CVG until manning issues are worked out. I'm an ABEX pilot so maybe an Astar guy can inform us exactly what is going on. If a merger were to take place, I believe as LJ does, that it would likely NOT involve furloughs as there would be no reduction in flying. Both systems are already intergrated, and then there is the additional B767's coming, five more this year!

 

[B727-100QF]

Ufford lives!

 

[LarryinTN]

I remember seeing a press release awhile back stating ABX was going to retire a bunch (like 20 or so) aircraft. Did that ever happen or is it still planned?

No, it didn't. In early 2005 DHL advised ABX that they would be removing 26 ABX airplane from the DHL system by the end of 2005. They actually removed only ten or twelve with only a handful actually being parked. The rest have remained in active as spares for recoveries, extra sections, etc.

 

[LarryinTN]

Ufford lives!

Huh? He's long gone...

 

[TWA]

My understanding was ABX parked 10 or so DC-8s at CVG, only to bring them back on the line a few months later.

 

[LarryinTN]

My understanding was ABX parked 10 or so DC-8s at CVG, only to bring them back on the line a few months later.

It wasn't that many DC8s, we were only operating about 18 at integration. Most of the 26 were supposed to be DC9s. We had 74 DC9s but parked one (931AX) well before the integration because of it's lease. At integration we parked the only two DC9-10s plus around 15, or so, DC9-30s. Those -30s have been maintained and rotated in/out of the system to keep them all ready. They've definitely brought back some DC8s that had been parked and I think the number of parked DC9s is down a bit, too, due to the recoveries and extra sections that have been running.