ABX Air

[rican]

Anyone at ABX have any updates on hiring forecast lately? I've heard some guys have heard the Chief Pilot talking about possible hiring this year. Just wondering if there has been anything new lately.

Thanks

 

[Jurassic Jet]

Official answer from the Chiefs is NO hiring and NO resumes being accepted at this time by Human Resources.

However, the Chiefs did say that their office was accepting WALKED IN resumes only at this time in anticipation of hiring again someday. No clues as to when that will be though. Sure hope it's this year.

 

[penguin22]

I just went thru recurrent, and the chief pilot comes in for a talk. Here's the official word on hiring. "Nothing official YET."

If you just go thru the website or call HR, they won't accept your resume. But the chief pilots ARE asking for resumes from current pilots. So if you know an ABX pilot, give him your resume.

When hiring does start (feels like later this year to me), they'll work through those resumes FIRST, then work the resumes from HR after that.

 

[PCL_128]

Is ABX big on having a 4-year degree?

 

[penguin22]

Is ABX big on having a 4-year degree?

Website says its preferred.

I'd get my resume in either way; this is (IMO) one of the best jobs out there, along with FDX/UPS.

unless you've got a thing about flying freight. (If that's the case, you just haven't been paying attention)

 

[Reebo]

Anyone want to walk my resume in?

 

[B727-100QF]

Kinda hard to hire when they still have guys on furlough.

 

[penguin22]

Kinda hard to hire when they still have guys on furlough.

well, duh. Those on furlough get called back first. Figured most here would know that already. Down to single digits left on furlough, I think.

 

[LarryinTN]

Last time I looked, there are 16 still on furlough but 11 of them have already bypassed recall so I wouldn't bet on many, if any, of those 11 returning. The remaining five have never been recalled. Those five, FWIW, were hired on 2/21/2001 so they just got their 5yr pins, or would have if they hadn't been furloughed.

I'd guess that the first "new-hire" class will clear out the remaining furloughees who want to come back.

 

[flyin4pennies]

I heard that once ABX is merged into Astar that there will be furloughs and that they will come from the ABX side of the house. This came from someone on the management side of DHL.
Is either or both Astar or ABX unionized? If so, I don't know how she could have that info?

 

[Jurassic Jet]

I heard that once ABX is merged into Astar that there will be furloughs and that they will come from the ABX side of the house. This came from someone on the management side of DHL.
Is either or both Astar or ABX unionized? If so, I don't know how she could have that info?

I think it's time for your pee pee test. :uzi:

 

[PCL_128]

I'd get my resume in either way; this is (IMO) one of the best jobs out there, along with FDX/UPS.

Wish I could, but I don't know anyone that works there. Looks like it's time for me to start jumpseating through ILN to meet some ABX pilots.

 

[LarryinTN]

I heard that once ABX is merged into Astar that there will be furloughs and that they will come from the ABX side of the house. This came from someone on the management side of DHL.
Is either or both Astar or ABX unionized? If so, I don't know how she could have that info?

The ABX pilots are IBT, Astar pilots are ALPA.

She can't know such things. There are no annouced plans to merge the two airlines, both are indapendant companies. If there were some type of merge, likely with one airline buying the other, the seniority integration would be negotiated and possibly mediated. Astar is the only one of the two with any newhires in the past five years so those are the guys who'd end up at the bottom of any combined list.

With the 11 767s that are coming I don't see why there'd be a need for furloughs unless some new retirements are annouced.

 

[rican]

I remember seeing a press release awhile back stating ABX was going to retire a bunch (like 20 or so) aircraft. Did that ever happen or is it still planned?

 

[Clipperskip]

Astar A/C retirements

I believe the retirements you are talking about were really replacements. It involved retiring some older B727's and replaceing them with newer advanced B727's. I do not think Astar has retired any A/C however I understand a few B727's are in hot storage in CVG until manning issues are worked out. I'm an ABEX pilot so maybe an Astar guy can inform us exactly what is going on. If a merger were to take place, I believe as LJ does, that it would likely NOT involve furloughs as there would be no reduction in flying. Both systems are already intergrated, and then there is the additional B767's coming, five more this year!

 

[B727-100QF]

Ufford lives!

 

[LarryinTN]

I remember seeing a press release awhile back stating ABX was going to retire a bunch (like 20 or so) aircraft. Did that ever happen or is it still planned?

No, it didn't. In early 2005 DHL advised ABX that they would be removing 26 ABX airplane from the DHL system by the end of 2005. They actually removed only ten or twelve with only a handful actually being parked. The rest have remained in active as spares for recoveries, extra sections, etc.

 

[LarryinTN]

Ufford lives!

Huh? He's long gone...

 

[TWA]

My understanding was ABX parked 10 or so DC-8s at CVG, only to bring them back on the line a few months later.

 

[LarryinTN]

My understanding was ABX parked 10 or so DC-8s at CVG, only to bring them back on the line a few months later.

It wasn't that many DC8s, we were only operating about 18 at integration. Most of the 26 were supposed to be DC9s. We had 74 DC9s but parked one (931AX) well before the integration because of it's lease. At integration we parked the only two DC9-10s plus around 15, or so, DC9-30s. Those -30s have been maintained and rotated in/out of the system to keep them all ready. They've definitely brought back some DC8s that had been parked and I think the number of parked DC9s is down a bit, too, due to the recoveries and extra sections that have been running.

 

[steamgauge]

I understand a few B727's are in hot storage in CVG until manning issues are worked out.

They're supposed to be back in ILN around 3/11 which is about the time the latest class of FOs finish OE.