AAI/SWA mistaken expectations

[luvfan]

Why do we "buy high" and "sell low?"
Why do we gamble and lose money?
Why do we make bad choices all the time.

The below link is a long video where a famous psychologist explains the reason we err in our decisionmaking.

I think this relates well to Southwest's acquisition of AirTran and choices made by the AirTran MEC. It also pertains to the reactions of many SWA pilots to SL9.

The gist of the video is the expected value is equal to the product of
a) the odds of the gain and
b) the value of success.

My opinion is arbitration makes it much more difficult to calculate the
a) odds of the gain and
much much more difficult to calculate the
b) value of success.

But it's human nature. Interesting video. Interesting why sometimes we are our own worst enemy when faced with a choice.

http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_researches_happiness.html

 

[Roomwithaview]

luvfan

AAI/SWA merger

Factual accuracy would be a good starting point.

 

[luvfan]

Clarification

Arbitration--doesn't mean there are winners and losers. On the contrary workgroups at SWA and AAI all stand to lose because of what is happening.

The offer made by SWA was tangible and real. Now it's gone.

What happens next? Difficult to predict and it could be very ugly for some of those who thought they would "gain more" through arby. Foolish indeed.

Here are your choices: 1 or 2?

But, but but..."we want 3"

3 was not a choice.

 

[weasel_lips]

You SWA types with your threats need to shut your arrogant pie holes.

If "they" stand to lose soooo much by going to arbitration (according to you, anyway) then why are you SWA types soooo afraid of it?

 

[Roomwithaview]

Weasel Lips

You SWA types with your threats need to shut your arrogant pie holes.

If "they" stand to lose soooo much by going to arbitration (according to you, anyway) then why are you SWA types soooo afraid of it?

Be careful. The "rhetoric police" are out in full force. Understand they've got checkpoints set up all over the FI. Might want to "tone it down" a little. Just a suggestion. Trying to help a brother.

 

[luvfan]

Arrogance

It wasn't meant as a cocky or arrogant post. The point is with Arbitration you have no control over the result versus negotiation where you do have a say through your team.

And there was no threat. The truth is if the arbitration is unsavory there is a good chance you will gain nothing. No one can predict what will happen.

The offer was real and would have meant you knew what you were going to get. Now it's impossible to predict what that will be. The uncertainty volume for what your benefits will be two years hence just got a whole lot bigger that's all I'm saying.

And Oh by the way I don't think this is good for any of us at SWA or AAI. I believe your MEC screwed the pooch.

If you think that is arrogance then I think you have a perspective problem. It may not be what you want to hear but it's true. Gary's offer was a gigantic financial windfall. It's gone. What the future holds now is a big question mark. This is the truth,

 

[Roomwithaview]

Luvfan
You must keep saying over and over again that arbitration is the only right and fair thing to do. These are the ALPA talking points. If a SWA guys tries to point out that a negotiated deal would have been better then according to the AAI FI Loyalists your are attempting to "incite fear" and/or are "afraid of arbitration".

If you are an Airtran guy, then according to guys like Ty Webb, you are a "Tokyo Joe" (and they have the nerve to call us racist homophobes) or "turncoat".

If you are another airline pilot (DAL,UAL,AMR,etc) and you support the AAI FI Loyalists position, then you are a "Good $hit" and allowed to rant at SWA pilots as you see fit. If, like Andy, you try to point out that the AAI MEC logic might be flawed then as Ty did you are questioned as to why you would even what to "jump in this stinkfest".

Those are the rules of the ole FI pickup game.