AAI membership vote or not?

[roughneck]

Do AirTran pilots get to vote on a SLI or not? I was under the impression that they would, but a buddy sent this to me tonight. Apparently this is from the airTran MEC. What does this mean for a membership vote?

As you may know, ALPA Merger Policy grants the Merger Committee very special and independent authority to work out the details of seniority list integration when a merger is between two ALPA carriers. Although this merger is not between two ALPA carriers, every member of this MEC is committed to respecting that special status, while ensuring that the MC has every resource available for them to successfully complete their task. For their part, the MC has pledged to keep the MEC and the pilot group fully apprised of their progress, and I believe that if asked, every member of that committee can also truthfully say that not only are both the MEC and ALPA fully supporting them in their work, but that they have assurances from the MEC that there will be no outside interference on their decision-making process. I make the same pledge to you.

 

[Flyarcticcat]

Old news No the AAI pilots do not get to vote only the SWA pilots if it ever gets to a vote.

 

[8v8tr]

How could a membership vote by either pilot group be fair?

5800 pilots vs. 1800 pilots?

 

[K-Mart]

I think the AAI pilots need to get a vote on the SLI.

 

[Ty Webb]

They are now saying we will vote on it, due to the requirement for MEMRAT (membership ratification for actions affecting certain specific issues) a few of these issues would be affected by an SLI agreement.

 

[Lear70]

How could a membership vote by either pilot group be fair?

5800 pilots vs. 1800 pilots?

It wouldn't work like that.

From what our MEC is committing to at the moment, IF a deal is reached on an SLI outside arbitration, each pilot group will get to vote on it.

If the Southwest pilots reject the deal, it goes to arbitration.

If the AirTran pilots reject the deal, it goes to arbitration.

The vote isn't one group against another, it's a vote for or against ratification of an SLI agreement and either side can kill the deal and send it to arbitration.

That eMail partially quoted above went out to explain why this merger will not be affected by ALPA policy unless we choose internally to go by that policy (that one paragraph is only an excerpt from the full email). The downside is that the MEC can change that at will, whenever they want, by a simple vote.

That has a lot of people concerned about who is on the MEC.
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[GuppyWN]

Well I say we put a couple patsies on your MEC and get on with it!

Gup

 

[dicko]

Well I say we put a couple patsies on your MEC and get on with it!

Gup

There are already enough "patsies" on our MEC.

 

[malibuVride]

Quite frankly, the MEC chair is more concerned about making this 'an historic integration' and going down as the one who made it all happen. Is he thinking about ALL the AT pilots or the legacy of his short tenure as an ALPA MEC chair?

On another note, wouldn't an arbitrator just rubber-stamp an OK on any SLI proposal agreed to by both merger committees, only to be voted down by a less-informed pilot group? It seems that if the committees agree and the MEC/BODs agree, the arbitrator's job will be quite easy.

So the question remains, is this MEC going to do the right thing?

 

[ivauir]

this[/U] MEC going to do the right thing?

I hope so. Would suck if this went the way of Muse.