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Maybe some RJ's. AA has a long line to stand in to get a new 737. Possibly a few year wait unless someone sells the slot to them.
 
Actually the 737 slots were ours, not sure if we deferred them to someone else, and for how long. However you need to get with the times, the latest rumor around here is A320s...

AAflyer

To the original poster, no plans to replace, they are being put in temporary storage. We posted a loss today, however it was small considering it being the first quarter, however we had an operating profit, and increased our cash position almost 500 million from last quarter. We have roughly 5 Billion now (4.8) in the bank.

Something will be coming down the line soon, lips are zipped, and we are the last to know.
 
Our latest rumors, no joke, is that Whitehurst (our COO), is telling people we are "actively" looking for MD80s (we have MD88s and MD90s) and 757s on the market. Why? Because their lease rates are soooo low now. Sounds like a carrot if we sign off on larger RJs. Hmmmmmmm. Good luck AA guys and gals.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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AAflyer said:
Actually the 737 slots were ours, not sure if we deferred them to someone else, and for how long. However you need to get with the times, the latest rumor around here is A320s...

AAflyer

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Just what AA needs to get its costs down, annother fleet type! .... Unless that fleet comes with an airline attached to them...........
 
Hutchman said:
Just what AA needs to get its costs down, annother fleet type! .... Unless that fleet comes with an airline attached to them...........

Whoops looks like the pain meds I am on got the best of me. Carry along children.
 
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Actually the 737 slots were ours, not sure if we deferred them to someone else, and for how long. However you need to get with the times, the latest rumor around here is A320s...


I think those 738's ended up with white kangaroos painted on their tails.
 
Serpico,

You are correct, they went to the Aussies... We had options for 50, I think 25 went down south.

AAflyer
 
AAflyer said:
...and increased our cash position almost 500 million from last quarter. We have roughly 5 Billion now (4.8) in the bank.

Cash is confusing. I am a technical guy, not a business major. If AA has 5 billion in cash, if they stuck it in a money market at 5%, the annual return would be $250,000,000, from the cash interest alone. At a more normal 10% for a business investment, you're looking at $500,000,000, which would be a tidy profit without turning a wheel.

Can someone with some business acumen explain to us engineer dorky types what function the cash serves? Is it a buffer againt operational problems? AA debt is high. Why not use the cash to beat the debt down, or help refinance at a lower rate?
 
General Lee said:
Our latest rumors, no joke, is that Whitehurst (our COO), is telling people we are "actively" looking for MD80s (we have MD88s and MD90s) and 757s on the market. Why? Because their lease rates are soooo low now. Sounds like a carrot if we sign off on larger RJs. Hmmmmmmm. Good luck AA guys and gals.


Bye Bye--General Lee

theres your sighn
 
Gorilla said:
Cash is confusing. I am a technical guy, not a business major. If AA has 5 billion in cash, if they stuck it in a money market at 5%, the annual return would be $250,000,000, from the cash interest alone. At a more normal 10% for a business investment, you're looking at $500,000,000, which would be a tidy profit without turning a wheel.

Can someone with some business acumen explain to us engineer dorky types what function the cash serves? Is it a buffer againt operational problems? AA debt is high. Why not use the cash to beat the debt down, or help refinance at a lower rate?

imagine yourself as an airline. you have $20 in your wallet (short term cash) and zero dollars in the bank (long term cash).

your monthly salary of $4,000 is your revenue and is deposited in your checking account at the beginning of the month.

your expenses are simply:
mortgage $1500
car $500
bills/utilities $700
gas $200
cable $100
credit card interest $200
other $100

assume you used a credit card, which you have a balance, to pay off your bills, gas, and cable. you pay off 90% of this each month ($900 = .9 x [$700 + $200 + $100]) from your checking account.

so you have a $700 profit (revenue minus expenses) right? yes. it is an operating profit.

your house and car are considered assets of your airline but they constantly are losing money due to their "usage" thus a depreciation expense must be made to reflect the "loss" to these assets. this expense is $1000 this month. so now you post a "loss" of $300 ($700 - $1000).

your long term cash position goes like this:
$0 + $4000 (revenue) - $1500 (mortgage) - $500 (car) - $900 (credit card) - $ 150 (spending money for your wallet) = $950.

your short term cash position goes like this:
$20 - $100 (other expenses like mcdonalds, that cd you wanted, etc) + $150 (from checking) = $70.

so now you have $1020 in "cash", a monthly "loss" of $300, an operating "gain" of $700.

keep in mind this is an EXTREMELY simple example. there are lots of "depreciations" and accounting tricks used.

as to why they do not pay down the debt. my guess is they calculate an internal rate of return on their money. if that rate of return is higher than the interest they are paying to obtain that money then it makes sense to use the money elsewhere rather than paying down the debt.
 
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