A319 landing question

[airplane wizard]

It is imposable to stall a 320 family Airbus operating in NORMAL LAW.

You can however stall a 320 in any law other than NORMAL, if you approach a stall the AWU will yell STALL, STALL, STALL.

You do know 320/330/340/380 Airbus have only side sticks, and they are not interconnected.

What if you trimmed full nose up, then shut both engines and all electrical power/APU/batteries off? Would it stall?

 

[get2flyin]

What if you trimmed full nose up, then shut both engines and all electrical power/APU/batteries off? Would it stall?

Why on earth would anyone even wonder about doing that?

 

[pilot772]

I flew into Denver last week and it only showed 125mph on final approach on the direct tv gps map. Do they fly final at stick shaker to save $ on brakes?

It's not that difficult to figure out. Depending on weight the vapp speed is in the 130's indicated. You were reading groundspeed, so you were landing in about a 10 kt headwind. Not that unusual.

 

[Blue Dude]

What if you trimmed full nose up, then shut both engines and all electrical power/APU/batteries off? Would it stall?

Why yes, yes it would. And if you drove your car into the ocean, would it get the upholstery wet?

 

[Beetle007]

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[Beetle007]

What if you trimmed full nose up, then shut both engines and all electrical power/APU/batteries off? Would it stall?

The question is whether it can stall in normal law. Shutting down the engines would cause it to no longer be in normal law and you could obviously stall. A Northwest pilot once shut off all flight control computers in flight...and it could have stalled then also.

 

[airplane wizard]

Why on earth would anyone even wonder about doing that?

You're right, that was stupid on my part...sorry guys.

 

[airplane wizard]

It's not that difficult to figure out. Depending on weight the vapp speed is in the 130's indicated. You were reading groundspeed, so you were landing in about a 10 kt headwind. Not that unusual.

But if the Vref is 130 knots, 125 mph works out to be about 105 knots if my math is correct. So given a 10 knot headwind, the ground speed would be 138 mph (130 kt-10 kt head wind =120kt *1.15=138mph) Ok, I know the speed on direct tv doesn't update instantaniously and may not be that accurate to begin with, but I was just curious what some of the Airbus pilot's would say about it. Thanks guys.

 

[say again]

But if the Vref is 130 knots, 125 mph works out to be about 105 knots if my math is correct. So given a 10 knot headwind, the ground speed would be 138 mph (130 kt-10 kt head wind =120kt *1.15=138mph) Ok, I know the speed on direct tv doesn't update instantaniously and may not be that accurate to begin with, but I was just curious what some of the Airbus pilot's would say about it. Thanks guys.

Are you sure the reason you can't fly is medical, or is it just plain stupidity?!?! Ever hear of winds upwards of 20-30 kts?

 

[Mike man]

....Realy. AB AC have "stick shakers"....Better study-up for your next oral DA!!!..The only STICK SHAKER in the Airbus is during LAV BREAKS!!!

You ever hear of this little thing called...SARCASM? F-ing dolt.

 

[get2flyin]

You're right, that was stupid on my part...sorry guys.

(shrug) Stranger questions have been asked.

Are you sure the reason you can't fly is medical, or is it just plain stupidity?!?! Ever hear of winds upwards of 20-30 kts?

Geez...lighten up man.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Hey Wizard-
Go look up some info on the Airbus, I think you'd find it fascinating. The trim wheel is only touched when you are setting it for takeoff (so that it's in trim in the event of an engine failure) and when you're John Wayne-ing it when you lose everything and are down to the dreaded MAN PITCH TRIM ONLY.

 

[say again]

Geez...lighten up man.

Thanks, but I'm doing just fine. Actually, I'm enjoying a few beers. Getting ready for some Irish activities this weekend. :beer:

 

[Microclimates]

what's the likelihood of TWO engines stalling anyway? I mean, don't they do maintenance on these engines... Geez, stalling gives me the heebiejeebies.

 

[Captzaahlie]

No worries about engines stalling if the new carburetors have been installed.

 

[Blue Dude]

Thought it had more to do with the Fetzer valve.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Yeah if it's been a while since you changed the air filter & spark plugs it could hurt to swap out the fetter valve. Just make sure you plenty of ball bearings!

 

[Abernathy]

I flew into Denver last week and it only showed 125mph on final approach on the direct tv gps map. Do they fly final at stick shaker to save $ on brakes?

Yes they do, it's a cost cutting measure. However, the practice is totally concerning and if I were you, I would write a strongly worded letter to the FAA describing your experience watching the direct TV feed of your aircraft's final approach groundspeed. Make sure to let them know you have absolutely no idea what the difference between IAS and GS is.

Also include your pilot certificate number and tell them that you're "super serious".. Also call your local news network and have them interview you as an "aviation expert".

 

[HA25]

I flew into Denver last week and it only showed 125mph on final approach on the direct tv gps map. Do they fly final at stick shaker to save $ on brakes?

I recently flew a 747 on final with a ground speed of 94 knots... there was a 25+ knot head wind mind you... but having flown the 319 before, I Can tell you if it's light (as was the 747 in this case)... 125 is very possible.

 

[Bringupthebird]

what's the likelihood of TWO engines stalling anyway?

Engines don't stall, amature pilot unions do!