A Tranny's first day of class at Southwest

[Ty Webb]

But how many of your Captains still give a mighty forward push on the yoke during the takeoff roll, because "That's how we did it on the Connie"? :laugh:

When you see that technique, you know your 4 day trip just became a week in purgatory.

 

[GuppyWN]

I see guys push on the yoke more than I'd care to admit. Kinda like the guys killing all their lift by rolling down the runway with upwind aileron correction.

Dude........ it's a jet.

 

[Tripower455]

No. The car racing part is the funniest... If you know the real story.

LOL... I think he was getting beat, because he bought an '05 GTO shortly after............

 

[Lear70]

surprised lear hasnt shut this thread down yet

Why should I? There haven't been any violations of the ToS, no reason to really. The profanity contained in the video isn't ON this website, and as long as it isn't a link to pornographic or racist material, there's no issue.

Again, if you don't like the site rules, I'll be happy to retire YOUR screen name upon your request.

Regards,

 

[Lear70]

Seriously, welcome aboard guys. When you meet Bob, ask him why you can't use flaps with speedbrakes. Then stand by for the f-bombs.

Ummm... OK, I'll bite. Why not? We do it every day without a problem... Of course, we also use the autothrottles below 10,000 without a problem, which I also don't understand the issues with.

Inquiring minds and all...

 

[Kharma Police]

Ummm... OK, I'll bite. Why not? We do it every day without a problem... Of course, we also use the autothrottles below 10,000 without a problem, which I also don't understand the issues with.

Inquiring minds and all...

It shakes the horizontal stab really bad. Older 73s had issues with stress the NGs have a beefier design.

 

[dicko]

Seriously, welcome aboard guys. When you meet Bob, ask him why you can't use flaps with speedbrakes. Then stand by for the f-bombs.

He sounds like some old school ValuJet Captain. It took them 5 years to understand that the 717 was not a DC9. It was like a dog watching TV.

Here's an excerpt from a CVR at AirTran in 2004: "No Captain Billy Bob, that's the 9. Your tired old brain is confused. You can do that with the 717".

I'll be happy to explain to 'Bob' why Boeing says you can use flaps and speedbrakes.

 

[Lear70]

It was prohibited on the 727's because of the vibration issues (and you could really tell, even at Flaps 2 if the spoilers were out even SLIGHTLY), but we routinely use them on a daily basis with flaps up to 10 and it's no more vibration that just spoilers alone...

Interesting stuff... Does Southwest still prohibit their use together on the -700's?

 

[Wesb737fo]

Yeah...had this issue on a flight where fully configured the Ca deployed the speed brakes due to being high and fast ( not his fault..long story). I made the comment that we shouldn't have those out. After we landed he asked me to show him where it said he couldn't use them as long as he was above 800 feet. Only thing I could find was Bulfer ( recommends not deploying with flaps beyond 15). Later I found the same in the procedures/trng. manual. Stress on the stab sounds logical to me.....anybody else?

 

[texman]

Yes it puts stress, but MX is required to X-ray them. It cost money to do so. Got to keep the fares low.