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a little inside info on FedEx hiring

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Goose17

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I flew with a very senior captain yesterday that recently went into an ACP (Assistant Chief Pilot) to promote a pilot candidate. The captain passed on some usefull information:

The ACPs meet once per month and each is allowed to recommend 5 pilot nominees. This is an important note since most of the packages end up on the 727 S/O, 727 F/O, and DC-10 S/O ACP's desk. Actually, the 727 S/O ACP gets the most, yet he is still only allowed 5 recommendations for hiring. The widebody captain ACP's only occasionally get a pilot package and thus when a pilot applicant gets his package to a widebody captain ACP, he leapfrogs all the other candidates. The ACP that was passing along this info simply said; "Rank has it's priviledges."

The very senior captain mentioned above, got the pilot candidate hired in only a couple months. Whereas a 727 S/O pulling for his buddy might take many, many months.

Moral of the story; if you can somehow get your packet on the desk of a more senior ACP, you time from recommendation to hired will be dramatically shorter. Also, if you have multiple guys recommending you, get the most senior guy to run your package in.

Hope this helps everyone.

Goose17
 
How dare you post relevant info that might be of interest to pilots trying to get on with a premier carrier! Didn't you get the message? This board is about "RJ versus mainline", "LCC's- scourge or savior?" and of course, "PFT- prostitution or mere pedantry?" strings.
 
Good info. There will be 1 class starting next week, and 3 in Jan, with projections of hiring over 300+/year for several years. Looks like about 16 new hires/class.
 
Goose17 said:
... The widebody captain ACP's only occasionally get a pilot package and thus when a pilot applicant gets his package to a widebody captain ACP, he leapfrogs all the other candidates. The ACP that was passing along this info simply said; "Rank has it's priviledges."

As a widebody FO this confuses me. My ACP also represents the Captains. We do not have seperate wide body Captain ACP's.....at least not in my airframe. So how does being a Captain make a difference in this circumstance?

On a side note....are they taking walk-in's again? I heard they were on hold till 06.
 
dunno

I would think the fact your ACP represents both FOs and Captains, the ACP himself might sort his rec's with seniority in mind. Your ACP probably doesn't get overloaded by recs anyway since a vast majority are on the 727 SO ACP desk.
 
Thanks for the useful information. What are the schedules like for the junior guys over at Fed Ex?
 
Does anyone know when/if FedEx is planning to have a hiring board in December?
 
I know the 727 SO ACP gets the brunt of the walkthroughs and is the slowest route to get an interview. Is the 727 ACP the same for the SO's and FO's? Do I stand a better chance at a quicker interview by having my walk through done with a 727 FO?
 
In the Central (Memphis) region there is an ACP for each aircraft type, plus another ACP for the S/Os. The Boeing and DC-10 S/Os share an ACP, and the front enders of each aircraft type share an ACP, for a total of 5 ACPs. Sometimes there is a vacancy or one ACP covers the other's pilots while one goes through training, but that is the basic setup. I don't think which ACP you go through impacts the time frame all that much, but I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that there could be some differences.

After the meet and greet, (according to a Jul 05 email from my ACP) there is a bi-monthly board to review the apps and forward a list of names "up the chain" where the final selection is made. "There is no time frame associated with final selection, and this can take up to several months".

Hang in there and keep updating!

FJ

PS: Another email from the 72 S/Os ACP said that he wasn't doing meet and greets for Sep and Oct, I don't know if any of the other ACPs also stopped doing them, but I would think they all did since the reason was too many recs for the time being. They should be started back up by now.
 
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Thanks for all the great information! That sheds some light on the process. Can anyone tell me definitely when meet-n-greets will start up again? Is it just dependent on the particular ACP or will FedEx release another mass e-mail? Thanks in advance!
 
The following is repeat info that I have saved to put out once in a while when somebody asks a question about the schedules for new guys at FedEx. It is still fairly valid, but things change quite a bit around here and what might be a great line one month may be turned to shat the next. Plus, there is no telling who might like what. Anyway, for what it is worth here goes:

Bid months begin on a Mon and run for 4 or 5 weeks and end on a Sunday and are either 28 or 35 days long. Usually there are eight 4 week bid months and four 5 week bid months per year. Min line guarantee for 4 week month is 68 credit hours and 85 credit hours for a 5 week bid month. Reserve lines pay 96% of the average line guarantee. 15 days on reserve and 13 off for 4 week bid month and 19 reserve days on and 16 days off for 5 week bid month. Typically the average BLG is higher than the guarantee, around 72 hours for a 4 week month and 90 for the 5 week month. This will change depending on the aircraft and the lines each month.

In general, here are some of the typical pairings at FedEx. DH equals deadhead on passenger carrier.

Majority of pairings: Week on, week off hub turn lines. DH MEM to outstation city on Mon morning. Hotel. Depart 9-10 pm. Fly 1 or 2 legs to hub (MEM, IND, OAK, AFW, EWR), arriving between 10 and midnight. Sit for sort. Depart back to outstation from 2-4 am. Get back to hotel between 6-7 am. Sleep. Repeat each night until Sat morning, then either layover and sleep or DH back to MEM (or home). Seniority depends on the number and length of legs and the outstation city. Commuters best friend if you live in the outstation city. Pays 35-40 hours per week.


Out and Backs (O/B):

AM: Depart MEM from 2 – 4 am, fly 1 or 2 legs to outstation. Fairly quick turn around and back to MEM by 7-9 am. 5-8 hours on duty, pays 6 hours per trip. Fly 3 or 4 days per week, mostly week days. Goes fairly junior among line holders, depending on the city pairing and the number of legs.

PM: Depart MEM 2-5 pm. Fly 1 or 2 legs to outstation. Sit in ramp office or hotel if over 4 hours, waiting for the incoming freight. Fly back to MEM at about 9-10 pm, arriving between 11:30 pm and 1 am. Fly it 4 or 5 times per week. 10 to 12 hours on duty, pays 6 hours per trip. Go pretty senior depending on number of legs and destination city.

DAY TURNS:

DH from MEM to outstation city oranother hub city on Sun or Mon. Depart that city and fly to MEM or hub around 7- 8 am the next day. Sit in the hub (MEM or other) for the day sort for 5 or 6 hours. Fly back to hub or outstation city that afternoon and go to the hotel. Fly each day of the week, then DH back to MEM. Week on, week off. These go out of several cities and several hubs, although there are not that many of them. Tend to go VERY senior. Closest thing to pax airline day flying that we have. Great for commuters, no need for a crashpad. Pay about 34-40 hours per week.



Hotel/Airport Standbys: Week on, week off. DH to hub city other than MEM on Sun. Stand hotel standby for 12 hours or airport standby for 5 hours Mon through Fri or Sat, then DH back to MEM. Go VERY, VERY senior. Pay about 35 hours for possibly zero block time.

Various weekend layover, west coast 2 or 3 day trips, and fill in trips usually make up some of the other lines out there. There are also “trash” lines that go fairly junior among line holders that have very little city stability and often flip between day and night flying.

Finally, Reserve lines. 3 types. RSV, A and B reserve.

RSV is on call 24/7 but requires 24 hour notice for trip assignment. Same number of days per month as A and B reserve. Goes fairly senior due to commuter-friendly aspect of the 24 hour notice.

B reserve: on call from noon to midnight. 1.5 hour callout (min of 1 hour if given late call parking right next to Ops). Often assigned trips up to a day ahead of time, usually by 10 am that day, sometimes just an hour before. Can also be assigned airport standby at MEM on reserve days. Folks who live in Memphis sometimes prefer B reserve over junky lines.

A reserve: on call from midnight to noon, otherwise the same as B. Pretty much the most junior lines in the bid pack. Sometimes assigned trips a day ahead of time, sometimes just an hour or two notice.

Some reserve lines have all the days bunched together (commuter friendly) and some break them up into 4 to 7 day bunches. There is a little bit of everything, even SIBA reserve lines (see SIBA below).


So there you have it. It is very difficult to define a standard line at FedEx, there really is no such thing, but these are the types of typical lines. The most common is the week on week off hub turn type line. There is also SIBA, which in the 72 is special flying to South America, but there are only about 9 or 10 lines of that out of 225 or so regular lines.

I think most of the widebody aircraft have similar trips to these, with maybe longer and fewer legs typically to larger cities (more freight). They of course have more international pairings that I know nothing about, except that everybody says the catering and the layovers are killer (in a good way) and that the long trips can be killer (in a bad way) on the body clock. Other domiciles for the widebody aircraft include Subic Bay, ANC and LAX. SIBA in the Airbus is in Europe. I don’t know much at all about the trips they fly out of those domiciles.

Hope some of this helps.

FJ
 
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If you get on at FedEx, are you going to sue them to put all the Caravan drivers on the seniority list?
 
Well, I was wrong (again). It appears that the meet and greets are still suspended at this time. No mention of when they would start up again.

I would hope that they will resume soon after peak, but that could just be wishful thinking.

I'll let everyone know if I hear something different.

FJ
 
Meet & Greet Q

Falcon, et al, thanks for the great info.

What sorts of things should we have ready to bring to a meet & greet? Hard copy letters, certificates, medical...?

Hoping the phone rings soon...
B
 
Beaker: I don't think you need anything at the meet and greet except maybe an updated resume. I haven't done a meet and greet since they went to it "officially", but the candidate doesn't even have to be at the meet and greet as I understand it. It is certainly helpful if the candidate can make it, but from what I've heard it was more of an interview by the ACP to see how well the sponsor knows the candidate than a "pre" interview of the candidate.

That being said, any contact with the company prior to the interview should be treated as a pre-interview. All of the candidates I have seen around the AOC were in their best suits and looking sharp, but I don't think it is mandatory that they come for the meet and greet. I would do everything I could to be there if I was a candidate however.

It wouldn't hurt to have hard copies of all your paperwork if you do come in for the meet and greet, but I don't think it will be required. Keep updating your online profile (once a month or so) even if you are in the "to be called" stack, they want to see that you have a continued interest in the company. Also make sure you keep the FE written and your Class I medical current.

Good luck.

FJ
 

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