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DaveGriffin

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The senior AF nitwits that decided to scrap the A-10 ought to be relieved of duty with loss of pay and benefits. They are killing grunts.

To bad the Marines didn't get the A-10, that could have been ideal.

I don't know about a UAV replacement for the A-10, but just about anything will be better than some AF F-16 driver, who really wants the status and prestige of flying air superiority missions, but instead gets assigned to orbiting the battlefield, waiting for a call on the batphone from an E5 to come in and drop a couple of bombs.

The A-10 drivers were 100% CAS. The F-16 drivers, who will be assuming the CAS role, will be part-timers. Getting AF fast movers to get down low, especially now with the new ordinance, is always a challenge.




http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/howtomakewar/default.asp?target=HTAIRFO.HTM
Son of Warthog

September 20, 2003: The U.S. A-10 ground attack aircraft is the best aircraft ever to serve in that role. Armed with a 30mm automatic cannon capable of destroying any armored vehicle, plus several tons of bombs and missiles and enough fuel for over six hours in the air, the A-10 could take ground fire and keep on going. Ugly, but efficient, pilots and troops call it the "warthog." But many air force generals hate the A-10, and have been trying to dump it for years. Yet every time a war comes along, the hogs are down in the dirt going for glory while the fast movers prance around at 10,000 feet.. Before the 1991 Gulf War, the air force and army were discussing transferring the A-10s the army. But the army turned down the offer because they have so little fixed wing experience, and would have to take care of the A-10 out of their own budget, while the air force had a chance to hang onto some of the money they formerly spent on A-10s. Marines would make a better home for the A-10s, as the marines have long operated fixed wing aircraft. But the hogs are getting old, no one wants to pay for a replacement and many air power experts believe smart bombs and missiles can replace much of what the A-10 does. With the A-10 gone, there won't be much choice. But it's good to remember that the A-10, which costs less than the AH-64 Apache helicopter gunship, has consistently outperformed it in combat. A rugged, fixed wing ground attack aircraft is always going to be cheaper, and more reliable, than a helicopter.

With no money available for an A-10 replacement, and the air force determined to retire the remaining A-10s in the next few years, the most likely replacement would be an unmanned aircraft (UCAV.) The air force and navy are already exploring this possibility. A ground attack UCAV would be smaller than the A-10, cheaper and even more resistant to ground fire. By the end of the decade, there are going to be a lot of UCAVs in the air, and one of them may be "son of warthog."
 
Dave,

Great words! It seems as though the A-10 community gets rave reviews from the only community that matters to us--those whom we support on the ground. My new avatar is a post-mission photo of an A-10 that has just expended 1150 rounds of 30mm high explosive incendiary (HEI) ammo during a troops-in-contact scenario in Operation ENDURING FREEDOM (OEF). There is no greater mission (other than CSAR)!

Best Wishes,

Stump
Flying Hogs for 19 Years and Counting....
 
Stump;

Hogs rock.

I just can't believe this bonehead move. Even if the AF makes a bad decision you would think that SecDef would overrule.

I hope they have some hot sh*t UCAV's in service soon. Can you imagine an AC-130 dropping and then controlling a swarm of low flying UCAV's?

In the short term, it is bad news for the guys on the ground that will have to plead and beg to get an F-16 to get below 10,000 ft. I guess you can't blame the AF for not wanting to send a single engine, poorly armored airplane down where a well placed AK-47 round can cause big problems. SOCOM just doesn’t have enough AC-130’s to deliver the same coverage that the Hogs did.

My heartburn with the AF is that the strategic bomber types and the air superiority types are living in the past when they make these elitist decisions favoring their respective communities.
 

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