70 to 100 seat airliners?

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With the imminent (according to lowecur and JetBlue) upswing in 70 to 100 seat airliners, When will someone other than Embraer and Canadair start producing some of these birds?

I don't personally include the CRJ700 and 900 in the airLINER catagory because of their small cabin cross section, but they do fit the seat number. I say that to say this, obviously the pax will prefer the larger less cramped cabin of the Embraer; which will put the Canadair at a disadvantage in the market. This would seem to indicate that there is only one true entrant in this 100 seat market.

If so, and if the market segment is going to boom the way B6 thinks it will, where are the competing designs?

In our basically free market, any product that is both successful and alone will soon find itself copied/cloned/stolen, etc. In other words, if the market truly exists, competitors will emerge.

So why have we not seen any movement toward a competitor for the Embraer? The Dornier 728/928 have yet to emerge from their parents financial difficulty. The financial difficulty may well have been caused by the 728/928 projects.

I am not questioning that a market exists for 70 to 100 seat passenger jets, but I wonder why we don't see more competition for the Embraers.

I also wonder why the 717 has not been a better seller. Any opinions?

 

[typhoonpilot]

Sukhoi Design Bureau and Boeing are working on the Russian Regional Jet ( RRJ ), a family of 55 to 95 seat airliners. It looks a lot like the EMB-170/190. China Aviation Industry Corp. is working on the Advanced Regional Jet ( ARJ ), another family with two versions planned. One of 78-85 seats and another of 98-105 seats. There are probably more in the works, those two are just off the top of my head.

The 717 was a victim of the Boeing takeover of McDonnell Douglas. Boeing didn't really want competition for the 737 so they didn't market the airplane for the first few years after they bought McDonnell Douglas. It wasn't until the Paris Air Show in 1999 that Boeing figured out there was a market for the airplane. Unfortunately they missed the boat as most airlines had just made fleet plans and ordered large numbers of RJs,737s, or A319s.


Typhoonpilot

 

[FN FAL]

It looks a lot like the EMB-170/190

Yea, like they had a lot of choices...

Hmmm...let's do something different and put the cockpit in the front and the engines on the empenage...no not there, the wings. Oh by the way, let's do something radical and put two pressurization packs in it, two hydraulic pumps, two generators and a reduntant set of batteries. That'll be something entirely different!

What does an airliner manufacturing comany have to do to build an aircraft with two engines on the wings and not get sued by EMB, Canidair, Boeing or Airbus?