B Buford T Justic Member Joined Apr 21, 2004 Posts 13 Jun 29, 2004 #1 of 7 Does anyone have the pay scale for this ? Thanks
S Swaayze Well-known member Joined Mar 9, 2002 Posts 692 Jun 30, 2004 #3 of 7 American Eagle rates. CA $58-91 FO tops around $35 I think
L LearLove Well-known member Joined Nov 27, 2001 Posts 4,451 Jun 30, 2004 #4 of 7 This is for Mid-Atlantic ERJ-170, not sure if its the same for PSA and their CRJ700's Yrs of Svc Captain Eff.1/1/04 Eff.1/1/05 Eff.1/1/06 Eff.1/1/07 Eff.1/1/08 Eff.5/1/09 1 $58.44 $59.61 $60.80 $62.02 $63.26 $65.16 2 $60.17 $61.37 $62.60 $63.85 $65.13 $67.08 3 $61.99 $63.23 $64.49 $65.78 $67.10 $69.11 4 $63.85 $65.13 $66.43 $67.76 $69.12 $71.19 5 $65.74 $67.05 $68.39 $69.76 $71.16 $73.29 6 $67.74 $69.09 $70.47 $71.88 $73.32 $75.52 7 $69.07 $70.45 $71.86 $73.30 $74.77 $77.01 8 $71.15 $72.57 $74.02 $75.50 $77.01 $79.32 9 $73.29 $74.76 $76.26 $77.79 $79.35 $81.73 10 $75.48 $76.99 $78.53 $80.10 $81.70 $84.15 11 $77.74 $79.29 $80.88 $82.50 $84.15 $86.67 12 $80.07 $81.67 $83.30 $84.97 $86.67 $89.27 13 $82.50 $84.15 $85.83 $87.55 $89.30 $91.98 14 $84.96 $86.66 $88.39 $90.16 $91.96 $94.72 15 $86.38 $88.11 $89.87 $91.67 $93.50 $96.31 16 $88.12 $89.88 $91.68 $93.51 $95.38 $98.24 17 $89.43 $91.22 $93.04 $94.90 $96.80 $99.70 18 $90.80 $92.62 $94.47 $96.36 $98.29 $101.24 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Yrs of Svc First Officer Eff.1/1/04 Eff.1/1/05 Eff.1/1/06 Eff.1/1/07 Eff.1/1/08 Eff.5/1/09 1 $21.01 $21.43 $21.86 $22.30 $22.75 $23.43 2 $29.79 $30.39 $31.00 $31.62 $32.25 $33.22 3 $32.35 $33.00 $33.66 $34.33 $35.02 $36.07 4 $33.96 $34.64 $35.33 $36.04 $36.76 $37.86 5 $34.82 $35.52 $36.23 $36.95 $37.69 $38.82 6 $35.41 $36.12 $36.84 $37.58 $38.33 $39.48 7 $35.86 $36.58 $37.31 $38.06 $38.82 $39.98 8 $36.47 $37.20 $37.94 $38.70 $39.47 $40.65++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Other MDA info...Longevity· Longevity for benefit purposes of all pilots from Participating Wholly Owned Carriers shall be based upon the pilot’s longevityat the Participating Wholly Owned Carrier from which he cameto MDA, together with his longevity at MDA.·MDA rates of pay for Participating Wholly Owned Carrier pilots will be paid in accordance with MDA contract based upon pilot’slongevity at the Participating Wholly Owned Carrier from whichhe came to MDA, together with his longevity at MDA.Seniority andProbation·The order of pilots on the MDA Pilots’ System Seniority List will be as follows:1. US Airways pilots in order of US Airways pilot seniority.2. Pilots from Participating Wholly Owned Carriers in order of theirpositions on the Wholly Owned Pilots Seniority List (CEL).3. New-hire pilots in order of their dates of hire as MDA pilots.·No Period of Probation for US Airways and Wholly Owned pilots. Last edited: Jun 30, 2004
This is for Mid-Atlantic ERJ-170, not sure if its the same for PSA and their CRJ700's Yrs of Svc Captain Eff.1/1/04 Eff.1/1/05 Eff.1/1/06 Eff.1/1/07 Eff.1/1/08 Eff.5/1/09 1 $58.44 $59.61 $60.80 $62.02 $63.26 $65.16 2 $60.17 $61.37 $62.60 $63.85 $65.13 $67.08 3 $61.99 $63.23 $64.49 $65.78 $67.10 $69.11 4 $63.85 $65.13 $66.43 $67.76 $69.12 $71.19 5 $65.74 $67.05 $68.39 $69.76 $71.16 $73.29 6 $67.74 $69.09 $70.47 $71.88 $73.32 $75.52 7 $69.07 $70.45 $71.86 $73.30 $74.77 $77.01 8 $71.15 $72.57 $74.02 $75.50 $77.01 $79.32 9 $73.29 $74.76 $76.26 $77.79 $79.35 $81.73 10 $75.48 $76.99 $78.53 $80.10 $81.70 $84.15 11 $77.74 $79.29 $80.88 $82.50 $84.15 $86.67 12 $80.07 $81.67 $83.30 $84.97 $86.67 $89.27 13 $82.50 $84.15 $85.83 $87.55 $89.30 $91.98 14 $84.96 $86.66 $88.39 $90.16 $91.96 $94.72 15 $86.38 $88.11 $89.87 $91.67 $93.50 $96.31 16 $88.12 $89.88 $91.68 $93.51 $95.38 $98.24 17 $89.43 $91.22 $93.04 $94.90 $96.80 $99.70 18 $90.80 $92.62 $94.47 $96.36 $98.29 $101.24 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Yrs of Svc First Officer Eff.1/1/04 Eff.1/1/05 Eff.1/1/06 Eff.1/1/07 Eff.1/1/08 Eff.5/1/09 1 $21.01 $21.43 $21.86 $22.30 $22.75 $23.43 2 $29.79 $30.39 $31.00 $31.62 $32.25 $33.22 3 $32.35 $33.00 $33.66 $34.33 $35.02 $36.07 4 $33.96 $34.64 $35.33 $36.04 $36.76 $37.86 5 $34.82 $35.52 $36.23 $36.95 $37.69 $38.82 6 $35.41 $36.12 $36.84 $37.58 $38.33 $39.48 7 $35.86 $36.58 $37.31 $38.06 $38.82 $39.98 8 $36.47 $37.20 $37.94 $38.70 $39.47 $40.65++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Other MDA info...Longevity· Longevity for benefit purposes of all pilots from Participating Wholly Owned Carriers shall be based upon the pilot’s longevityat the Participating Wholly Owned Carrier from which he cameto MDA, together with his longevity at MDA.·MDA rates of pay for Participating Wholly Owned Carrier pilots will be paid in accordance with MDA contract based upon pilot’slongevity at the Participating Wholly Owned Carrier from whichhe came to MDA, together with his longevity at MDA.Seniority andProbation·The order of pilots on the MDA Pilots’ System Seniority List will be as follows:1. US Airways pilots in order of US Airways pilot seniority.2. Pilots from Participating Wholly Owned Carriers in order of theirpositions on the Wholly Owned Pilots Seniority List (CEL).3. New-hire pilots in order of their dates of hire as MDA pilots.·No Period of Probation for US Airways and Wholly Owned pilots.
L LearLove Well-known member Joined Nov 27, 2001 Posts 4,451 Jul 1, 2004 #5 of 7 PWO Pilot Questions~5843436.doc Page 1 of 5 06/22/04 1:06 PMBenefitsQ1. Does MDA have a retirement plan?A1. Yes, it is a Defined Contribution 401k.Q2. If I go to MDA, do I have to take early retirement at ALG?A2. No.Q3. Do I give up my PDT defined benefit retirement if I move to Mid Atlantic?A3. Mid Atlantic has no defined benefit program.Q4. What about the social security bridge?A4. The social security bridge does not apply at MDA.Q5. What kind of matching 401K funds does MDA have?A5.Yrs of Svc Contribution Max Level EffectiveContribution1-10 50.0% 6.0% 3.0%11+ 50.0% 8.0% 4.0%Q6. How much vacation time will I be entitled to? What is MDAs vacationpolicy? Will it be my combined Piedmont/MDA time to determine howmuch I receive?A6. Vacation time will accrue based upon combined years of PWO andMDA service and days will be credited o n December 31 for use inthe following year.Years of Service Calendar Weeks1 year 25 years 315 years 420 + years 5Q7. How will vacation be bid?A7. The following year’s vacation schedule will be posted by October 1and vacation bids will be completed by November 15th and awarded no later than November 22nd. Vacation periods consist of seven-day blocks beginning on Saturday and ending on Friday. Bids will bebased on status they will occupy on January 1st. At their discretion, pilots may bid all, some or none of their accruedvacation during the Annual Vacation Bid.a. Pilots who fail to bid may later select available vacationblocks.PWO Pilot Questions~5843436.doc Page 2 of 5 06/22/04 1:06 PMb. Pilots who have completed four (4) calendar years with theCompany, may carryover up to two vacation blocks ofunused vacation to the subsequent year.c. Selection of available vacation block(s) or carryover block(s)must be made within five (5) days after the award ofvacations on or before November 22. Thereafter, eligiblepilots who fail to bid will be assumed to have elected tocarryover up to two (2) vacation blocks; and any additionalvacation time will be assigned by the Company.Q8. What are our benefits?A8. Please see previous web site publication.Q9. Will all benefits (medical, dental, life insurance, etc.) be available from ourfirst day with Mid-Atlantic?A9. Yes. PWO pilots are eligible for participation after completing 6months of combined service with a PWO and MidAtlantic Airways.Contract QuestionsQ10. Where can comprehensive information be gathered about the contractualwork rules and plans for MA? Is there a functioning CBA at this time?When is one expected to be in place?A10. Wages, benefits and work rules will match the AA Eagle pilots’agreement, (except that the following provisions of the Agreement,as amended by the Restructuring Agreement and Letter ofAgreement 84, will apply: Sections 1, 19, 20, 21, 25, and 29, andthe Accelerated Arbitration of Selected Cases Letter of Agreement),beginning with the AA Eagle wage rates in effect on January 1,2003. The integration of the mainline sections has not yet beenfinalized.Q11. Is there a seat lock for first officers at MDA, that is, if you are selected forfirst officer training, and later on might be able to hold a MDA captainposition, are you allowed to upgrade?A11. A first officer may bid for and be awarded a vacancy in a higherpaying or lateral bid status. However, they may be subject to a holdin their current position based upon the needs of the operation. Inaddition, all first officers meeting the minimum requirements ofSection 24 and who have completed two (2) years of service will berequired to exercise their seniority to bid a captain bid status at theirdomicile in order of seniority and satisfy the necessaryrequirements to upgrade, except that a first officer may defer anupgrade attempt to captain for up to thirty-six (36) months from thedate he would have been required to bid a captain vacancy.Q12. How many days off do we get per month?A12. Ten(10)PWO Pilot Questions~5843436.doc Page 3 of 5 06/22/04 1:06 PMQ13. What are the general scheduling rules?A13. Mainline Section 25Q14. Duty hours?A14. The applicable flight and duty time limitations will be thosespecified in Part 121 of the Federal Aviation Regulations. Duty timewill be scheduled for no more than fourteen (14) hours per dutyperiod; however, a scheduled duty period may exceed thislimitation with the concurrence of the Scheduling Committee.CompensationQ15. What is the guaranteed hours per month for reserve lines and regularlines?A15. A pilot awarded a Primary or Secondary bid line who is available forduty for a full month will be paid flight pay at the applicable hourlyrate for a minimum of seventy-two (72) hours. A reserve pilot who isavailable for duty for a full month will be guaranteed a minimum ofseventy-five (75) hours of flight pay at the applicable hourly rate.Q16. Is there a cap for total hours per month?A16. The applicable flight and duty time limitations will be those specifiedin Part 121 of the Federal Aviation Regulations. This is currently100 block hours per month or 1,000 block hours per year. There isno pay hour cap.Q17. What is the pay scale for me to go to MDA? Will I be a first year salary, ormy combined MDA CEL seniority scale?A17. Please see previous web site publication.Q18. Is there cancellation pay?A18. A pilot who is available for duty for a full month and is awarded aPrimary or Secondary bid line will be guaranteed ninety-six percent(96%) of the scheduled flight hours awarded on his final bid lineaward,a. Including:(1) any awarded open time (OT),(2) any time added due to reassignment or rescheduling,(3) any junior manning assignment (JM).b. Deducting:(1) a trip trade of less flight time value than the pilot’soriginal trip,(2) any trip sequence drops, or portions thereof,(3) any trip(s) missed due to illness or non-occupationalinjury where the pilo t has no accrued paid sick timeavailable,(4) any missed assignments (MA),PWO Pilot Questions~5843436.doc Page 4 of 5 06/22/04 1:06 PM(5) any flight canceled due to a Captain’s rejection of anaircraft for a deferrable MEL item.Miscellaneous
PWO Pilot Questions~5843436.doc Page 1 of 5 06/22/04 1:06 PMBenefitsQ1. Does MDA have a retirement plan?A1. Yes, it is a Defined Contribution 401k.Q2. If I go to MDA, do I have to take early retirement at ALG?A2. No.Q3. Do I give up my PDT defined benefit retirement if I move to Mid Atlantic?A3. Mid Atlantic has no defined benefit program.Q4. What about the social security bridge?A4. The social security bridge does not apply at MDA.Q5. What kind of matching 401K funds does MDA have?A5.Yrs of Svc Contribution Max Level EffectiveContribution1-10 50.0% 6.0% 3.0%11+ 50.0% 8.0% 4.0%Q6. How much vacation time will I be entitled to? What is MDAs vacationpolicy? Will it be my combined Piedmont/MDA time to determine howmuch I receive?A6. Vacation time will accrue based upon combined years of PWO andMDA service and days will be credited o n December 31 for use inthe following year.Years of Service Calendar Weeks1 year 25 years 315 years 420 + years 5Q7. How will vacation be bid?A7. The following year’s vacation schedule will be posted by October 1and vacation bids will be completed by November 15th and awarded no later than November 22nd. Vacation periods consist of seven-day blocks beginning on Saturday and ending on Friday. Bids will bebased on status they will occupy on January 1st. At their discretion, pilots may bid all, some or none of their accruedvacation during the Annual Vacation Bid.a. Pilots who fail to bid may later select available vacationblocks.PWO Pilot Questions~5843436.doc Page 2 of 5 06/22/04 1:06 PMb. Pilots who have completed four (4) calendar years with theCompany, may carryover up to two vacation blocks ofunused vacation to the subsequent year.c. Selection of available vacation block(s) or carryover block(s)must be made within five (5) days after the award ofvacations on or before November 22. Thereafter, eligiblepilots who fail to bid will be assumed to have elected tocarryover up to two (2) vacation blocks; and any additionalvacation time will be assigned by the Company.Q8. What are our benefits?A8. Please see previous web site publication.Q9. Will all benefits (medical, dental, life insurance, etc.) be available from ourfirst day with Mid-Atlantic?A9. Yes. PWO pilots are eligible for participation after completing 6months of combined service with a PWO and MidAtlantic Airways.Contract QuestionsQ10. Where can comprehensive information be gathered about the contractualwork rules and plans for MA? Is there a functioning CBA at this time?When is one expected to be in place?A10. Wages, benefits and work rules will match the AA Eagle pilots’agreement, (except that the following provisions of the Agreement,as amended by the Restructuring Agreement and Letter ofAgreement 84, will apply: Sections 1, 19, 20, 21, 25, and 29, andthe Accelerated Arbitration of Selected Cases Letter of Agreement),beginning with the AA Eagle wage rates in effect on January 1,2003. The integration of the mainline sections has not yet beenfinalized.Q11. Is there a seat lock for first officers at MDA, that is, if you are selected forfirst officer training, and later on might be able to hold a MDA captainposition, are you allowed to upgrade?A11. A first officer may bid for and be awarded a vacancy in a higherpaying or lateral bid status. However, they may be subject to a holdin their current position based upon the needs of the operation. Inaddition, all first officers meeting the minimum requirements ofSection 24 and who have completed two (2) years of service will berequired to exercise their seniority to bid a captain bid status at theirdomicile in order of seniority and satisfy the necessaryrequirements to upgrade, except that a first officer may defer anupgrade attempt to captain for up to thirty-six (36) months from thedate he would have been required to bid a captain vacancy.Q12. How many days off do we get per month?A12. Ten(10)PWO Pilot Questions~5843436.doc Page 3 of 5 06/22/04 1:06 PMQ13. What are the general scheduling rules?A13. Mainline Section 25Q14. Duty hours?A14. The applicable flight and duty time limitations will be thosespecified in Part 121 of the Federal Aviation Regulations. Duty timewill be scheduled for no more than fourteen (14) hours per dutyperiod; however, a scheduled duty period may exceed thislimitation with the concurrence of the Scheduling Committee.CompensationQ15. What is the guaranteed hours per month for reserve lines and regularlines?A15. A pilot awarded a Primary or Secondary bid line who is available forduty for a full month will be paid flight pay at the applicable hourlyrate for a minimum of seventy-two (72) hours. A reserve pilot who isavailable for duty for a full month will be guaranteed a minimum ofseventy-five (75) hours of flight pay at the applicable hourly rate.Q16. Is there a cap for total hours per month?A16. The applicable flight and duty time limitations will be those specifiedin Part 121 of the Federal Aviation Regulations. This is currently100 block hours per month or 1,000 block hours per year. There isno pay hour cap.Q17. What is the pay scale for me to go to MDA? Will I be a first year salary, ormy combined MDA CEL seniority scale?A17. Please see previous web site publication.Q18. Is there cancellation pay?A18. A pilot who is available for duty for a full month and is awarded aPrimary or Secondary bid line will be guaranteed ninety-six percent(96%) of the scheduled flight hours awarded on his final bid lineaward,a. Including:(1) any awarded open time (OT),(2) any time added due to reassignment or rescheduling,(3) any junior manning assignment (JM).b. Deducting:(1) a trip trade of less flight time value than the pilot’soriginal trip,(2) any trip sequence drops, or portions thereof,(3) any trip(s) missed due to illness or non-occupationalinjury where the pilo t has no accrued paid sick timeavailable,(4) any missed assignments (MA),PWO Pilot Questions~5843436.doc Page 4 of 5 06/22/04 1:06 PM(5) any flight canceled due to a Captain’s rejection of anaircraft for a deferrable MEL item.Miscellaneous
L LearLove Well-known member Joined Nov 27, 2001 Posts 4,451 Jul 1, 2004 #6 of 7 Q19. Regarding the "training freeze" on new hires, as I understand it this meansthat those of us who have not been with our current carrier for at least 12months are ineligible for employment at MDA. Is this correct?A19. While the restructuring agreement allows MDA to hold a pilot for aperiod of time before releasing them to mainline, there is noprovision to hold PWO pilots going to MDA. These pilots may besubject to their carrier’s hold provisions, if any apply.Q20. Could you give us an estimated duration of training activities, from classstart to completion of IOE, what has been the norm?A20. The training plan for the EMB consists of a 4-week ground school,2 weeks of simulator, and approximately 1 weeks for IOE.Seniority / FlowQ21.Several questions have been asked regarding CEL seniority. Below is a sample. The answer is intended to be responsive to duplicatequestions.If I am awarded a F/O position (based upon preference listing of "all"),what is my upgrade seniority at Mid Atlantic based upon? Date of hire atALG or award date at Mid Atlantic.A21. The order of seniority on the MDA Pilot System Seniority List is asfollows:1) US Airways pilots in order of US Airways pilot seniority.2) Pilots from Participating Wholly Owned (PWO) Carriers inorder of their positions on the Wholly Owned Pilots SeniorityList (CEL).3) New-hire pilots in order of their dates of hire as MDA pilots.All pilots at Participating Wholly Owned carriers will be placed onthe Combined Eligibility List (CEL). This relative seniority willremain intact no matter when a pilot on that list accepts a positionat MDA.Q22. Several questions were asked regarding flow through. These questionsincluded both flows up to MDA and Mainline, as well as flow back down tothe PWOs. The following answer applies to all such questions.A22. The restructuring agreement allows for flow through between thePWOs, MDA, and Mainline to be finalized in a separate agreement.PWO Pilot Questions~5843436.doc Page 5 of 5 06/22/04 1:06 PMThe details of this agreement are currently being discussedbetween the individual ALPA representatives and the company.Q23. How will I know where I stand on the CEL? Will the CEL be published?A23. Please contact your ALPA rep for a copy of the CEL.Q24. If I leave a PWO for a FO position at MDA, will I have the option ofreturning to my PWO if captain positions become available there?A24. No.Q25. If I take a FO position and a pilot junior to me selects captain only, will heget the captain slot before I upgrade at MDA?A25. No, awards will be based on CEL seniority.Q26. Do I have to fill this form every time a class is offered or does thecompany keep a record of my information until I get call from you?A26. A preference form onlyneeds to be filled out once. A pilot may change his preference form until such time that the company hasmade him an offer based upon his preference. However, anychange made after the cutoff for a specific class date will not beeffective until a subsequent class date is announced. Once a pilotdeclines a MDA position for which he has stated a preference, he isno longer eligible to flow to MDA.StatsQ27. What is the current # of pilots?A27. 171 including classes up to June 21, 2004.Q28. How many from the APL?A28. All 171.Q29. How many from the PWOs?A29. Zero.Q30. How many from off the street, as was rumored to take place?A30. None.Q31. What are the current pilot bases?A31. PIT.Q32. Where are future bases planned?A32. This decision has not yet been made.
Q19. Regarding the "training freeze" on new hires, as I understand it this meansthat those of us who have not been with our current carrier for at least 12months are ineligible for employment at MDA. Is this correct?A19. While the restructuring agreement allows MDA to hold a pilot for aperiod of time before releasing them to mainline, there is noprovision to hold PWO pilots going to MDA. These pilots may besubject to their carrier’s hold provisions, if any apply.Q20. Could you give us an estimated duration of training activities, from classstart to completion of IOE, what has been the norm?A20. The training plan for the EMB consists of a 4-week ground school,2 weeks of simulator, and approximately 1 weeks for IOE.Seniority / FlowQ21.Several questions have been asked regarding CEL seniority. Below is a sample. The answer is intended to be responsive to duplicatequestions.If I am awarded a F/O position (based upon preference listing of "all"),what is my upgrade seniority at Mid Atlantic based upon? Date of hire atALG or award date at Mid Atlantic.A21. The order of seniority on the MDA Pilot System Seniority List is asfollows:1) US Airways pilots in order of US Airways pilot seniority.2) Pilots from Participating Wholly Owned (PWO) Carriers inorder of their positions on the Wholly Owned Pilots SeniorityList (CEL).3) New-hire pilots in order of their dates of hire as MDA pilots.All pilots at Participating Wholly Owned carriers will be placed onthe Combined Eligibility List (CEL). This relative seniority willremain intact no matter when a pilot on that list accepts a positionat MDA.Q22. Several questions were asked regarding flow through. These questionsincluded both flows up to MDA and Mainline, as well as flow back down tothe PWOs. The following answer applies to all such questions.A22. The restructuring agreement allows for flow through between thePWOs, MDA, and Mainline to be finalized in a separate agreement.PWO Pilot Questions~5843436.doc Page 5 of 5 06/22/04 1:06 PMThe details of this agreement are currently being discussedbetween the individual ALPA representatives and the company.Q23. How will I know where I stand on the CEL? Will the CEL be published?A23. Please contact your ALPA rep for a copy of the CEL.Q24. If I leave a PWO for a FO position at MDA, will I have the option ofreturning to my PWO if captain positions become available there?A24. No.Q25. If I take a FO position and a pilot junior to me selects captain only, will heget the captain slot before I upgrade at MDA?A25. No, awards will be based on CEL seniority.Q26. Do I have to fill this form every time a class is offered or does thecompany keep a record of my information until I get call from you?A26. A preference form onlyneeds to be filled out once. A pilot may change his preference form until such time that the company hasmade him an offer based upon his preference. However, anychange made after the cutoff for a specific class date will not beeffective until a subsequent class date is announced. Once a pilotdeclines a MDA position for which he has stated a preference, he isno longer eligible to flow to MDA.StatsQ27. What is the current # of pilots?A27. 171 including classes up to June 21, 2004.Q28. How many from the APL?A28. All 171.Q29. How many from the PWOs?A29. Zero.Q30. How many from off the street, as was rumored to take place?A30. None.Q31. What are the current pilot bases?A31. PIT.Q32. Where are future bases planned?A32. This decision has not yet been made.
LittleDeuce Well-known member Joined Nov 28, 2001 Posts 341 Jul 1, 2004 #7 of 7 Mda It was announced yesterday that PHL will become a crew base on Sept 1, 2004 and that they are expecting DCA as a base soon.
Mda It was announced yesterday that PHL will become a crew base on Sept 1, 2004 and that they are expecting DCA as a base soon.