61 vs 141

[Joshrk22]

You can look around spending $30,000 for your Private - Commericial ME. Throw in your CFI - add $3,000, your CFII - $1,250 and your MEI - $1,500. This in all will put you around $36,000 or so, depending on where you are located.

 

[meyers9163]

Hmm I dunno about 30k. I am asking to compare. I was given a quote of 16k for taking me from 60 TT after ppl through IR, Single Comm, CFI, CFII. I realize that you have to add Multi add on and maybe if I can work it get some multi time and do a multi comm instead of single. Any ways I realize I'll lack the time but would this be a possible route going? Ir, Single Comm, CFI, CFII roughly 204 (144 hours).

 

[Joshrk22]

Well these numbers are based on local FBO, its $38/hr of instruction and then for the aircraft its $98/hr for a 182 and $168/hr for the Duchess(ME). This is including all your groundschool, Medicals, Written and Flight Exams. Where I'm at right now, it's a club($500 deposit, $225 yearly), $20/hr for instruction and then $15 for the Taylorcraft and $28 and $25 for the Pipers. This is a significantly lower cost then most FBO's, I'm still not sure what I'm going to do for my ME rating yet, but I have the Private, Instrument, Commericial, and CFI pretty well covered. Maybe look at joining a club, this is will help lower costs a lot.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

The Total Price Tag

I hate to be the one to tell you this but with the 50-100 hour multiengine emphasis, including the tailwheel/acrobatic time, this program would realistically be around 50k to maybe even 60k. Maybe when you get around 200-hours your FBO school will allow you to start training from the right seat in prep for the CFI at the same time you’re preparing for the commercial. That could save 5k off the price.

You see there is a cheaper way but that would be to have an emphasis on single engine. Unfortunately what is needed to even get a job instructing in the FBO’s twin is probably 50-hours of multiengine or maybe even more. That’s the expensive part, getting the multiengine time.

 

[Joshrk22]

I wouldn't worry too much about the tailwheel and aerobatics ratings at this time....maybe later on down the road. Some FBO's sell block-time, which will lower the price. Make some friends that have a multiengine aircraft. Maybe work for the FBO in exchange for the airplane for an hour for free. There's really no way to do it without getting a loan.

 

[Joshrk22]

1. Get your private.
2. Get your Multi-engine Addon
3. Get your Instrument Rating in a Multi.
4. Get your Commercial in a Multi and go from there.

That's going to be about the cheapest way; minimizing flight time, checkrides, etc.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

True, tailwheel/acro time is not that important for getting the ratings but it is for mastery of piloting. If you don't get it during your 250-hour program then I would guess that you'll never get it.

Is tailwheel and acro important, more so than most everyone thinks. I don't want to really get into that here now, but if you can figure out how to include the TW/Acro into your program you will never regret it.

 

[Catbert]

Fifth, as far as money goes, this can not be done on the cheap or as a pay as you go. That simply will not work here because you’ll be at this your whole life dreaming the dream instead of ever having a chance to live the dream.

That is a fact, Jack. Avoid this route at all costs. I'm a CFI now, but I spent eight years in various dead-end jobs, paying as I went. Not the way to go! Once you get the CFI, things begin to accelerate nicely. Get to that point as quickly as possible.

 

[meyers9163]

Yeah getting to the CFI will be a nice day. Obvioulsy I'm far away from that point but lets face it I have a over a year and 3 months left of college so I do have a little while. I just am trying to make the mistake of taking that 50k or more loan out like some of these academies do. I mean i realize the importance of Multi time and how ATP provides it and so do a few otehrs but I also know other ways of getting it. One of my friends is telling me get the CFI/CFII/MEI and then he will help me get on where he did his instructing where they have a charter op. So that'd be awesome.

Any ways he also had told me his way of going about his ratings and I was curious. He said it was due to not over lapping in the PTS and it worked for him and all his former students, just curious on thoughts.....


PPL, IFR with multi engine add-on, time build in a single..do the comm-multi, then comm single add-on then the CFII, MEI, and CFI

Guess he has reasons for this but i dunno. If it works it works however....

 

[Joshrk22]

PPL, IFR with multi engine add-on, time build in a single..do the comm-multi, then comm single add-on then the CFII, MEI, and CFI

I can't remember correctly but if you get your comm-multi you can't build it in a single like you have stated. You have to build 250 hours in ME aircraft. Everything else looks fine though! Goodluck my friend.