4723 and Counting

[JI Gone OH]

What is "How many posts has General Lee posted on FlightInfo.com," Alex.

Get out and live a little, would ya! Just having a little fun at your expense. Although I disagree with just about everything you say and am so tired of your [anti-Comair/RJ bashing] drivel, I admire your dedication to a forum which gains you virtually nothing. Volunteer in the union, or join the RJDC ;-)

 

[FN FAL]

What is "How many posts has General Lee posted on FlightInfo.com," Alex.

Get out and live a little, would ya! Just having a little fun at your expense. Although I disagree with just about everything you say and am so tired of your [anti-Comair/RJ bashing] drivel, I admire your dedication to a forum which gains you virtually nothing. Volunteer in the union, or join the RJDC ;-)

Enjoy your crappy little 60 grand a year CRJ Captain little life. Hope you liked it!

 

[JI Gone OH]

Enjoy your crappy little 60 grand a year CRJ Captain little life. Hope you liked it!

With 4171 posts on here yourself, my suggestion to you is the same as the General. I'll take EFIS tubes and a "crappy little 60 grand a year CRJ Captain life" anyday over a life that finds me sitting behind a computer screen long enough to have submitted as many posts here as you have. Are you related to the General?

 

[PCL_128]

I'll take EFIS tubes and a "crappy little 60 grand a year CRJ Captain life" anyday over a life that finds me sitting behind a computer screen long enough to have submitted as many posts here as you have.

Really? If the General has that much time to post on here, then he must have a lot of time off from work. Seems like a pretty good life to me. I'd love to have that much time away from the job.

 

[General Lee]

I do mainly ATL turns, which gives me a lot of nights home. In the Summer I used to include ANC nonstop from ATL 3 day trips, but they are gone. So, I mainly do St Thomas turns from ATL, or San Juan. But, I will do a 3 or 4 day if it gets me out to SAN for a long layover.


As far as my number of posts, I really enjoy this board. I enjoy good debate. I have opinions, and some people don't like that. As far as Comair bashing, I still don't really feel good about how some of their pilots treated our furloughed pilots right after our support during their strike. They treated our parking of planes as a heyday for them.(some new growth!!) The RJDC is a cancer spread by senior lazy pilots who don't want to be FOs again. They swore they would never be FOs again, as soon as they upgraded on the Bandit. (Wow)



Bye Bye--General Lee (5000 is approaching)

 

[FN FAL]

With 4171 posts on here yourself, my suggestion to you is the same as the General. I'll take EFIS tubes and a "crappy little 60 grand a year CRJ Captain life" anyday over a life that finds me sitting behind a computer screen long enough to have submitted as many posts here as you have. Are you related to the General?

Hahaha...I got enough time to make asinine posts, enjoy a career and go to college full time.

Sorry about being so curt in my first post...I just don't like it when boardmembers call other boardmembers out in a thread like that. Maybe it's just me, but that practice seems a little over the edge.

 

[C425Driver]

General,

I have yet to meet a Comair pilot who was happy that Delta parked airplanes and furloughed pilots. And to generalize (no pun intended) us like that is idiotic. I think it's safe to say that none of us wished furloughs and the hardships that go along with them upon anyone.

As for your generalization of the RJDC, well maybe we do agree on some things!

C425Driver

 

[General Lee]

General,

I have yet to meet a Comair pilot who was happy that Delta parked airplanes and furloughed pilots. And to generalize (no pun intended) us like that is idiotic. I think it's safe to say that none of us wished furloughs and the hardships that go along with them upon anyone.

As for your generalization of the RJDC, well maybe we do agree on some things!

C425Driver

I did say "some Comair pilots". I just thought the resulting "offer of help" for our furloughed pilots was UNDERWHELMING, compared with our support of your strike. I really never saw anything from your group, and unfortuanately you are GROUPED together because of the lack of response. I am sure there are some that wanted to do more, but I really never heard anything in public. All I heard was "we will help IF.........we get some more 70 seaters etc...." The ASA pilots (along with the CHQ) did not voice much either, but they came through with offers of help, and that was a nice gesture, appreciated by many of the unfortunate furloughs. Comair finally came through about 2 years late, after they were given more 70 seaters. It was very transparent.

As far as the RJDC guys, I am glad you see some of the same things I do. I think many of the senior guys at Comair and ASA don't want to give up their "weekends off or 4/5 weeks of vacation", and want to fly larger aircraft, without going the usual route of interviewing and starting over. That is lazy. That is "I am a Captain for life..." If you want to improve your paycheck and get better benefits, you must go UPWARDS, not bring larger planes DOWNWARD. The RJDC says they want ALPA to not play it both ways. Well, I pay a heck of a lot more than most RJ pilots to ALPA every year, and I feel I need to be helped first, since I pay more. If you don't like that, get another union. The same goes in politics and Congress. A Senator or Congressman is there to negotiate for you with the Gov't---to try to better your life and speak for you. If you are a big donor, I bet he/she will fight for you more than the average guy. What to do? Ellect someone else if you don't like it, or move away. That is life.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Biatch5]

Really? If the General has that much time to post on here, then he must have a lot of time off from work. Seems like a pretty good life to me. I'd love to have that much time away from the job.

You never will cause you "paid" for you job

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Phew! Only 643 posts here. I was getting worried when I started to read this thread. I have a real big mouth and figured I'd be up there in the 4000s too.

Especially now that i'm home every night I seem to have a lot more time to read message boards.

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Biatch5: I was thinking the same thing. I mean if he REALLY wanted some time off when he was at Gulfstream couldn't he just have called up his instructor...er...I mean Captain and say that he wanted to cancel his "lesson" for the day? I mean it was HIS money after all. He should've been able to spend it however he wished.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

The RJDC is a cancer spread by senior lazy pilots who don't want to be FOs again. They swore they would never be FOs again, as soon as they upgraded on the Bandit.

Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Biatch5]

Phew! Only 643 posts here. I was getting worried when I started to read this thread. I have a real big mouth and figured I'd be up there in the 4000s too.

Especially now that i'm home every night I seem to have a lot more time to read message boards.

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Biatch5: I was thinking the same thing. I mean if he REALLY wanted some time off when he was at Gulfstream couldn't he just have called up his instructor...er...I mean Captain and say that he wanted to cancel his "lesson" for the day? I mean it was HIS money after all. He should've been able to spend it however he wished.

HAHA! True

 

[PCL_128]

Wow, only 9 posts until PFT was mentioned in a thread that had nothing to do with PFT. That might be a record. Looks like the General isn't the one that needs to get a life.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Is it still considered PFT if you continue to pay after training is over?

 

[C425Driver]

General,



Yes, you did say "some" Comair pilots. I still have not met 'one' Comair pilot who thought that parking your planes was a "heyday for them (new growth)". In fact, all of the orders for aircraft that we received after 9/11 (and your subsequent furloughs) were placed before 9/11. We did not recieve any growth aircraft as a result of Delta furloughs so I don't see how you determined that "some" of us were reveling in our new growth as a result of your furloughs. The new aircraft that we are recieving starting next month are a result of the concessions that most of my coworkers just voted for two months ago, not a result of your furloughs that started over three years ago.

As for the support that the Delta pilots gave us, yes, you did send in your strike assessment checks like every other ALPA pilot, but your moral support was minimal compared to what we recieved from the other major airlines and some people had a hard time with that. I spent a lot of time in the strike center during the those 89 days and the vast majority of supportive phone calls and additional donations to the strike fund came from other airlines (AA, US, CAL, NW, SW, TWA, ExEA, etc...) - but not big brother. Personally, I appreciated everything that we got from everyone and I don't hold anything against anyone who didn't go above and beyond for us and I wish that Comair management would have changed their hiring policy on resigning seniority numbers for furloughed pilots.

Quite honestly G, I think it's time to start looking ahead to try to improve this industry instead of dwelling in the past. What do you think?

C425Driver

 

[TIGV]

Why when I read this kind of thing does the phrase :

" Silver Spoon W@nkers "

Spring to mind ?????

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Back to General Lee,

Did you see the Dukes trailer yet? It's on ifilm.com if you havent. Actually looks pretty good. I like Burt Reynolds as Boss Hogg.

I didn't think i'd like it, but I actually am looking forward to seeing it!

 

[JI Gone OH]

Hahaha...I got enough time to make asinine posts, enjoy a career and go to college full time.

Sorry about being so curt in my first post...I just don't like it when boardmembers call other boardmembers out in a thread like that. Maybe it's just me, but that practice seems a little over the edge.

You're probably right, I shouldn't have called him out the way I did. The intention was not to be harmful, but funny. Obviously you didn't take it that way. Although it appears as though the General took it in its' proper context, I probably still owe him an apology. Sorry. And for that matter, I probably owe you one as well. Sorry. Just trying to have a little fun; it's as simple as that.

Keep up your great time management skills, and I'll do the best I can to keep the blue side up. No blood, no foul... See Ya!

 

[JI Gone OH]

Phew! Only 643 posts here. I was getting worried when I started to read this thread. I have a real big mouth and figured I'd be up there in the 4000s too.

Especially now that i'm home every night I seem to have a lot more time to read message boards.

You've got an extraordinary amount of work to do ;-) Hope things are well with you and the Mrs. Give me a call sometime when you have a chance...

 

[JI Gone OH]

Well, I pay a heck of a lot more than most RJ pilots to ALPA every year, and I feel I need to be helped first, since I pay more.

I AM going to call you on the carpet on this one. I have never been a supporter of the RJDC, and don't ever expect to be, but it's arrogant and self-serving comments like these, from people like you, that almost [and I stress almost] make me want to join their cause. ALPA garnishes the exact same percentage out of my paycheck as they do yours. Just because your "contribution" equates to a bigger dollar amount over the course of a year than mine does, you are entitled to NOTHING more from ALPA than I am. NOTHING!

So let me get this straight. Using your method of "thinking", you must feel as though your furloughed brothers and sisters over there at Delta shouldn't be receiving anything from ALPA these days because they're not contributing anything financially to the association, right. I didn't think so.....

As always, you are showing your true colors General. Your selfishness, ignorance, and condescending view of us unworthy "RJ Pilots" has never been more apparent. It's all about you big fella! Nice Work! Get with the program.

 

[FlyComAirJets]

The General inserts his foot into his mouth for the 4723rd time.

Well, I pay a heck of a lot more than most RJ pilots to ALPA every year, and I feel I need to be helped first, since I pay more. If you don't like that, get another union. The same goes in politics and Congress. A Senator or Congressman is there to negotiate for you with the Gov't---to try to better your life and speak for you. If you are a big donor, I bet he/she will fight for you more than the average guy. What to do? Ellect someone else if you don't like it, or move away. That is life.

In another couple years, I'll have my 25 year ALPA pin. Using your stellar logic, can I claim that I should get extra privileges because I have paid dues longer than you? Not only did I pay an internal Comair assessment, I paid Continental and Eastern assessments too. Do you suppose that I might have even paid more than you? Hmmmmm? (Favorite FDJ2 expression)

Thank God our legal system doesn't work that way or people would be claiming, 'hey, I pay more taxes than you, help me FIRST.' Do you see how ridiculous that statment is? It didn't work for Martha Stewart and it sure doesn't work here!

Ever notice that statue frequently placed in front of older courthouses, the one with the blindfolded women holding the legal scales? Do you have any clue what that represents? And no, those aren't the large denomination dollars from 'big donor' either. It means, dear General, that justice is supposed to be blind. Besides, with the condition of the union, I just do not think that there are a lot of bills that ALPA can tuck in her G-string these days.

Thanks for the political advice though. In fact, I am taking it to heart. No, I am not going to 'move away' or quit but rather seek to legally reform this union that has lost its way.

Cheers.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Re: The General

Give General a break. He rarely ever lowers himself to the level of the insults that are thrown at him. We look forward to his responses whether or not we agree with him and we'd all be screaming for his return if he wasn't around.

Besides, he quietly sits by as I post links to silly videos with reference to him.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=54170

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=48635&highlight=airtran

 

[PCL_128]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agree with the RJDC wankers on this one. Just because you pay more doesn't entitle you to more or better representation from ALPA, General. Then the RJDC really would have a valid DFR claim against ALPA. We're all members of the same union, General. You're not entitled to anything that the rest of us aren't.

 

[79%N1]

Exactly!!!!! And that is what the RJDC is about! (I AM NOT a member, but I read, and I agree with this pricipal) NOT, as GL and FJD2 will spew out about us "lowly" RJ pilots wanting their jobs, or not wanting to be FO's ever again! This is ignorance and fear! The RJDC is about FAIR REPRESENTATION from ones Union (ALPA), which DOES NOT fairly represent its members. PERIOD!!!!!

 

[FurloughedAgain]

I'll give you a call. I was in your home-town the other day, but only long enough to get the crew car and go to that ratty Subway across from the Radisson.

Take care!

 

[Thunderchief]

I have thought many a time that the General should get out more and experience life away from the screen but I must say that if he ever ventures down to the C terminal of the 'other' airline in ATL, I would be inclined to buy him a beer and pick his brain for a couple of minutes......

Keep on keepin' on Gen. Lee

Oh, and when I saw the Dukes of Hazard trailer, I nearly dropped my beverage at Spondivits!!!!

 

[StaySeated]

"If you want to improve your paycheck and get better benefits, you must go UPWARDS, not bring larger planes DOWNWARD."


Will someone PLEASE make this into a sticker so I can put it on my flightbag? The RJDC is every airline manager's wet dream...pilot's creating a "b" scale on their own in the guise of fair representation. Talk about myopic. I may be working for peanuts with no work rules, but at least my union represents me. Jesus f'n C, wake up people.

 

[FlyComAirJets]

Myopia is in the eye of the beholder.

This will most likely sail right over your head, Stay Seated, but the real conflict here is between the deregulation-era "legacy" carriers and the latest generation Low Cost Carriers.

Oh, and by the way, you might "work... for peanuts and no work rules" but I sure do not. Why would anyone with half a brain voluntarily work at such a place? How stupid is that? Ah yes, get your 1000 hours PIC in and then leave. Seems to me that a fellow pilot bashing sticker should be the least thing on your mind but hey, you keep doing your eye exercises.

 

[StaySeated]

The "i may work for peanuts..." was my sarcastic attempt to describe what I believe the RJDC wants at the end of the day. I could go on and on and on, but of course this has all been covered and will be trampled again in the future. You are entitled to your opinion and I wish you nothing but the best. See you on the line and you can buy the first round at one of our luxurious overnights.

 

[General Lee]

79%N1,


Wait a second here. Sheesh. What I am saying is that the Delta pilot group pays a lot more money to ALPA, and inturn gets more attention. Same with PACs in Washington. We are a larger group and contribute more to the coffers. But, we were also negotiating at different times compared to Comair and ASA. ALPA fought for us at a time when you were not negotiating. We had our own set of priorities. Also, Delta has the ability to negotiate with us or not, and they decided that what we wanted was fair, and they bought off on it---and probably got something in return themselves. Delta agreed to the contract---LEO signed it back in 2001. He didn't go to the table and say "No way, I want 100 seaters for the Regionals Darnit!" No, he actually agreed to it. The RJDC needs to get another union and then negotiate, but remember---Delta may just agree to something on their own with us........It can happen. It DID HAPPEN. Leo made up his mind and agreed with us. Can you say he did not?

What happens when you are a part of a class action lawsuit and you think the lawyer isn't dealing with you fairly? You get a new one and refile the suit. Time for you to go away from ALPA----but wait, then you wouldn't be entitled to the large coffers in the case of a strike.... Ah ha. Time for you to start up Regional ALPA if you feel slighted.


Also, could COMAIR's scope problems (CHQ, Mesa, etc) have been solved during their own post strike contract negotiations? Yes they could have, BUT THEY WENT FOR THE MONEY. HELLO? Debate that please. ALPA could have helped them there and then, but NO, the pilot group at Comair had other PRIORITIES. They are the best paid regional now, right? Right? ALPA seemed to help them achieve that........ Now the senior guys don't want to be FOs at a Major, and they really really want to keep their weekends off and 4 weeks of vacation in MYR.......



Bye Bye--General Lee