24 hours off?

[JakeSnake]

Ok guys...I've attended company sponsored training for the last 6 days. The company wants me to do a trip on the 7th day. (I'm new to corporate). Are there any rules regarding having a 24 hour period free from duty in 7 days? I haven't done actual flight duty, just training. Thanks.....

 

[cvsfly]

Ha, Ha, Ha. Welcome to corporate! No rules unless you are in a position to make them yourself.

 

[Diesel]

welcome to the world of non 121 flying.

Pretty funny post though.

 

[unclematty]

you've got to be kiddin'!!!

 

[FL000]

Your day off way yesterday...you know...that day you didn't fly.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

maybe take the "8th" day and look for a new job.

ruthless bastard$!!

 

[Astra Guy]

I have to agree with Gulfstream 200. Any 91 operation that does not have a crew rest policy that is not more conservative than the 121 standard is not well run.

 

[CorpAv8r]

Unfortunately, there are no duty/rest requirements for Part 91 ops. However, as AstraGuy said, a good 91 operator will have a crew rest policy.

I put 3 years in at a company that had a rest policy, but it was only window dressing for the executives. My first month with the company, I went to CE-650 initial for two weeks and was sent out on a 2 week trip the day after I got back from school. I had to buy more underwear on the road because I didn't have time to wash from the previous trip. That was only the tip of the iceberg of the department's problems which is why I am no longer there.

 

[Astra Guy]

Corp,

Too bad that not all 91 folks don't develop a realistic and meaningful policy. As far as window dressing is concerned once the policy is in writing it is viewed as legally binding. We all know the underwriters drive the train and if you violate your company's policy then it gives them the option to opt out on your insurance if there were an incident.

My advice to anyone in 91 ops is to be proactive in developing a realistic policy. The risk profile is greatly diminished when crews are rested. If the flying public had any knowledge of the 121 policy they would be reluctant to get on the aircraft. Nap lines come to mind...LIFO. The beauty is that under 91 we don't have to require the same kind of nonsense.

Fly safely!

 

[CL60]

SOP's

JakeSnake,

Are you 91, 135, or both?

As stated here, most 91 flight departments have SOP's that are only utilized when it is convenient for the company to do so.

Unfortunately, 0\0 takeoffs, 28 hour duty "days," face time, and other factors that will produce irregular bowel movements are the norm for some departments with weak leadership.

The corporate arena does offer some great jobs out there but most that I've encountered required you to do whatever was necessary to get the job done.

 

[aeronautic1]

Okay everyone... ahhhhh

Ever fly air ambulance? You are always on duty!

 

[JakeSnake]

Ok, I actually posted my question in the wrong section. My company is a part 135/91 unscheduled charter operation, not corporate. I've educated myself and now know that the only "day off" requirements are the 13 days in a quarter. And no, my company has no internal rest policy...i.e. if its FAR legal, you are good to go....thanks for all the input.

 

[Flywrite]

I'm thinking I want to work for AstraGuy...

 

[aeronautic1]

Dead leg?

Part 135 regs read that if the return leg is paid for, it is 135 whether there are pax aboard or not. Alot of the bottomfeeders I have worked for try to get you to bust flight/duty time regs by calling the return leg Part 91 even though it's paid for.