2009 W2's

[FLYLOW22]

Well whats the fractional dude's TAFB. We all know they do a lot of sitting. I'd just assume be busy. Not hating just saying... TAFB is a better comparison especially when comparing the airline world and the frac world.

Personally I'd rather have 8 hours of duty with 6 hours of flying than 16 hours of duty with 2 hours of flying. I'm guessing most would agree with that.

Actually, hadn't calculated Time Away From Base but...

I spent 25% of my tours at home on my couch this year. Years in the past have been much busier.. also different fleets fly different missions. Some fly many transcons and the flight/duty ration you like prevail. Other fleets are like DC9s hopping up and down the East Coast. 14+ fleet types give the pilots a chance to pick their preference.

The hardest thing I had to adjust to from 121 was packing for a 7 day trip and being ready for anything from Aruba to Albany in a day.

91K is easy. 14 duty ON, 10 min OFF. Feels like 121 meets 135. Get tired? We fatigue out. No questions asked. Ever.

It's been a good 8 years. Not all perfect but good.

2 hour show this morning to do a flight from TX to CO... back to TX and done. Easy. No hourly pay, just a daily rate whether we turned a wheel or had a day where the "wheels come off".

 

[BrokenWing]

B6 7-year CA

184.4 hours flown

749.5 hours TAFB (imo, the true measure of how much you're working)

$155K

 

[XBOEINGDRVR]

5 yr B6 A320 F/O- just over 115k, straight pay.

 

[traffic pilot]

255k 818 block 10 year SWA capt per diem included had to scramble to make that

 

[chignutsak]

Hope ya all can enjoy it since it could disappear tomorrow (i.e. medical gone, position or company). Keep focused on the important parts of life. More then this industry is out there for damn sure!!

The other day the USA lost eight and Canada lost five in an outpost in a $hithole of a land known as Afghaistan. Let's not forget our troops overseas allowing us to enjoy what we know here.

Take some of this great coin ya all brag about and buy a meal in the terminal for a soldier, airman, sailor or marine. This American Warrior is either going or coming for one of two $hitholes.

Well said!

 

[texman]

Well whats the fractional dude's TAFB. We all know they do a lot of sitting. I'd just assume be busy. Not hating just saying... TAFB is a better comparison especially when comparing the airline world and the frac world.

Personally I'd rather have 8 hours of duty with 6 hours of flying than 16 hours of duty with 2 hours of flying. I'm guessing most would agree with that.

True, I was in the frac world for 4yrs corprate for 5yrs before going to the airlines and loved it. The boy's and girls in the frac world may fly less but i think it is more work than the airlines. Bags, your own flight planning, (unless your work at netjets) coffee papers ice, pulling cover off in the snow, brushing off the snow, jumping on the wing to make sure the fan is not frozing so you can get a N1 indication, worring about did the FBO put the plane in for the night. Oh don't forget the cabin! Kids, chips, popcorn, M&Ms crushed on the floor with dog hair, can you say industrial vac, or mabey duck tape please! FBO ROTTTTTTTT no thanks! These are just some of the things i don't miss but it was a challange. I will say cool airplanes and great people and fun doing it. Average duty for me now is 8.36 hours a day and flew 650 hours for the year, as supposed to 350 hrs but with a lot more BS involved.

 

[turbinej]

CAL B-756 4yrs $107,800 Flew 900 hours

 

[hoover84]

B6 E190 CA
865 Block
141k

 

[vv100]

7 yr WN FO 150K 672 block

 

[waveflyer]

1st/2nd yr wn fo- $85k

agreed. I lack credibility bc of who I fly for, but I think days and time off are way more important than block. My favorite part of Swa schedules are that they don't reverse our sleep schedules- either am or pm. 8 hrs block gets done in a 10 hr duty day, instead of 14 and when I get done with a 3 day trip, I'm more rested after doing more flying than my previous domestic hub and spoke 4 days. No more zombie days after the trip. It's nice.

 

[Babylon]

B6 7-year CA

184.4 hours flown

749.5 hours TAFB (imo, the true measure of how much you're working)

$155K

I agree - that's less than 3 days a month gone - outstanding.

5/6 YR FDX FO, $164K not counting 401K, pension, per diem, etc.
average 9 days gone/month
340 block hours

 

[Falconjet]

Down $24K from last year. Thanks to 4A2b. Sucks the big one.

FJ

 

[Whine Lover]

2009 Summary:

W2 Income = "Mr. Blutarsky....$0.0"

Block = 15.8 hrs

TAFB = 624 hrs / 26 days

- Florida vacation = 6 days
- Michigan vacation = 8 days
- Missouri vacation = 4 days
- Belgium/Holland ( working ) vacation = 6 days ( See above: "Block" )
- Wisconsin/Lake Michigan boating vacation = 2 days

( I had to take a lot of vacations because being at home all the time can be very stressful. I'm not kidding either. )


Sometimes I think Life sucks....Other times, not so much.




YKW

 

[Obvada1]

JB FO 2 yr
RSV all year

52k

2001-61k - regional capt
2002-47k - regional capt on rsv all year
2003-34k - fractional fo
2004-36k- fractional fo
2005-40k- fractional fo
2006-42k-fractional fo
2007-19k - fractional fo on 8 month loa due to downsizing
2008-40k -jb 1st year

Aviation sucks, to all newbies, please stay away, your family will thank you

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Blocked 321. $72K Reserve 900 Captain.