2 part question???

[Pilot124]

1st. Can you log FTD (flight training device) as total time in you logbook? NOT Flight sim time but FTD time?

2nd. How many hours do you need to be a ME instructor. I know it's 5 make and model but how much time catagory and class to instruct multi?

Thanks in advance

 

[350DRIVER]

I personally would not log the time as "total time" although I know quite a few that have done that.




There is no minimum flight time if you are doing your MEI training under part 61, just the 5 hours in make in model in the multi-engine aircraft that you are going to be instructing in.

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* note- insurance reqts. may require you to have more time in make and model....

 

[apdsm]

Insurance companies are the kicker on the ME instruction. When I was instructing, the insurance company required 200 hours multi.

 

[JetSpeed219]

My flight school has MEI's with 60 hours...........

 

[zeroline]

To answer your first question, you can legally not log total tmie from an FTD. You can log instrument time and dual received:


(4) A flight simulator or approved flight training device may be used by a person to log instrument time, provided an authorized instructor is present during the simulated flight. (h) Logging training time. (1) A person may log training time when that person receives training from an authorized instructor in an aircraft, flight simulator, or flight training device.

This is for part 61 and 141. There are larger universities going part 142 that allow you to log FTD time as total, although I never would.

Question 2: As long you hold the category and class rating on your flight instructor certificate, you may instruct in it regardless of hours in it. (Of course, this doesn't include insurance reuirements)

(b) Aircraft ratings. A flight instructor may not conduct flight training
in any aircraft for which the flight instructor does not hold:
(1) A pilot certificate and flight instructor certificate with the
applicable category and class rating; and
(2) If appropriate, a type rating.

 

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

You need 15 hours PIC time in category and class to instruct in that category and class. For multiengine, basically you need 15 hours after you are done with your initial M/E training. Your multiengine checkride counts as PIC time, so if that ride was 1.5 hours, you will now need 13.5 hours of PIC multi time to be eligible to take the MEI practical test. 61.183(j)

To instruct in a specific make and model multiengine aircraft, you need the 5 hours PIC time in that specific make and model. HOWEVER, this only applies to giving M/E training to someone going for a specific license or rating. So if your student already has his multiengine rating and he is not using the time to count for something else (CFII, ATP etc) then you can instruct in that plane on your first flight in that make and model. IF you meet a guy who wants a BFR in a Baron and you've never flown a Baron before, you are legal to do so. But if he wants to work on his multiengine rating in a Baron, then you cannot until you get 5 PIC make and model. 61.195 (f)

 

[Pilot124]

You need 15 hours PIC time in category and class to instruct in that category and class. For multiengine, basically you need 15 hours after you are done with your initial M/E training. Your multiengine checkride counts as PIC time, so if that ride was 1.5 hours, you will now need 13.5 hours of PIC multi time to be eligible to take the MEI practical test. 61.183(j)

To instruct in a specific make and model multiengine aircraft, you need the 5 hours PIC time in that specific make and model. HOWEVER, this only applies to giving M/E training to someone going for a specific license or rating. So if your student already has his multiengine rating and he is not using the time to count for something else (CFII, ATP etc) then you can instruct in that plane on your first flight in that make and model. IF you meet a guy who wants a BFR in a Baron and you've never flown a Baron before, you are legal to do so. But if he wants to work on his multiengine rating in a Baron, then you cannot until you get 5 PIC make and model. 61.195 (f)

Thanks Burrito.....That's what I thought it was but the above post somewhat contradict what you said. I believe you are right.

 

[midlifeflyer]

1st. Can you log FTD (flight training device) as total time in you logbook? NOT Flight sim time but FTD time?

There's really no such thing as "total time" It's either "total flight time" or "total pilot time". You may count FTD time as "total =pilot= time" but not "total flight time". Since most logbooks only have one total column which is usually labeled "total =flight= time" or "total duration of =flight=", FTD time should be left out of it. Totalling the two together in one column can also make filling out an 8710 a real headache.

2nd. How many hours do you need to be a ME instructor. I know it's 5 make and model but how much time category and class to instruct multi?

The same as for being a single engine instructor. The CFI eligibility requirements in 61.183 include

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at least 15 hours as pilot in command in the category and class of aircraft that is appropriate to the flight instructor rating sought
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[Pilot124]

Thanks guys....I just couldn't find it in the FAR's but I didn't have much time to look either. Thanks again all...

 

[midlifeflyer]

Not to worry. While the 25 hour requirement is pretty easy to locate, since it's in one place, the "total time" part involves putting together information from a couple of different regulations.

 

[Iceman21]

just to clarify for the archives.

you need 15 hours PIC in category and class to take practical test for the instructor rating sought.

you need 5 hours make and model in order to instruct in a multi, if the student is seeking a multi rating. (Instrument rating doesn't count) FAR 61.195(f)

 

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

just to clarify for the archives.

you need 15 hours PIC in category and class to take practical test for the instructor rating sought.

you need 5 hours make and model in order to instruct in a multi, if the student is seeking a multi rating. (Instrument rating doesn't count) FAR 61.195(f)

Yes it does! "A Flight instructor may not give training required for the issuance of a certificate or rating in a multiengine airplane... unless that flight instructor has at least 5 hours of PIC time in the specific make and model of multiengine airplane ..."

If you're doing any instruction in a twin that will eventually lead to a checkride, you need the 5 PIC. IF you are doing high performance, complex, tailwheel, high-altitude endorsements, then you do NOT need 5 PIC. BFR's and IPC's you do NOT need 5 PIC. Anything that counts as required training for a practical test you need the 5 PIC make and model.