190's for Airways!

[Crzipilot]

rumor has it, as mesa's contracts come up....they won't be renewed......

 

[gcsass]

I heard from someone in corporate today that there may be recalls as early as March, at least that is what they are being told!!

The news just keeps gettin better and better.......

 

[iflyhigh]

To Everyone:

The transition agreements states, that the E190 flying is growth aircraft. Not saying that some 737 can not go away. Thus they should not be included in the fleet plan at the year mark. Now this could change with the new contract that in negotiations.

The A350, that are slotted to come in 2010, will probably be replacement aircraft for the 757.

 

[Anais Nin]

rumor has it, as mesa's contracts come up....they won't be renewed......

Nice thought, nice rumor....but do you have any idea how long that contract still has on it? Its a looong time.

 

[HAL]

Nice thought, nice rumor....but do you have any idea how long that contract still has on it? Its a looong time.

Actually, it's a little of both. In our latest employee newsletter in the 'rumors' section, someone asked about Mesa. The response was that for USAirways East, the contract with Mesa is up this spring and Mesa will no longer be flying USAirways Express for the 'old' USAirways routes. The contract with USAirways 'west' has a long time to go, and so yes, Mesa will be flying out of PHX and LAS for quite a while.

HAL

 

[Thedude]

Now, if we can only get the 50+ seat flying back to mainline.

 

[FLYLOW22]

While those pay rates SUCK, the important thing is they are on property.

Think long term guys, short term sacrifices will be necessary unfortunately for this profession to regain its footing.

We've been making "short term" sacrifices" for 20 years now.

Something else must be wrong.

 

[Crzipilot]

Well it was mentioned by Parker, during beginning of the merger. I believe that Mesa's -8's are up in 2 years. And the stonghold they have as being exclusive feed into PHX is up in 2012......so 6 years. Not exactly a loooooong time. Not short....but who knows

 

[PHXFLYR]

You have nothing to explain, congrats for getting them on the property. Like you said, get them onboard and then work on the payrates. Considering what every mainline pilot group has given this is start in the right direction.

Without this flying, you could basically write off mainline domestic operations.

Regards,

AA

Thanks !!


PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

HaHa!!! Yeah you got that right. We bent over first, can't argue with you on that.

Hey did you hear that we had a guy named Frank take us into chap 11 in '83. You know what the pilots did, they we on strike. What did the crews at US, and UA do in response to their chap11? Oh yeah they rolled over.

Hey the pilots at EA went out in support of the MX strike in 1989. Did you see what the pilots did over at NW when MX went out, or the US pilots during their MX strike in '93 (yr?) ? Oh yeah they rolled over.

Hey did you see that NW, and DL want to raise the RJ's to 70 seats and up, and outsource that flying? CO has had, and still has a 59 seat limit. And; until recently we have had the best flow through in the industry, bringing large numbers of our Express crews to the Mainline.

There is NOT one group of pilots that is above reproach. So don't start with me you idiot, this is a shi!@#y time, and of course I don't want US to pay the ERJ less than B6! Everyone is right on about the small victory for mainline flying.


UA B737 12yr CA $129/hr

CO B737 12yr CA $154/hr "D'uh"

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[PHXFLYR]

HaHa!!! Yeah you got that right. We bent over first, can't argue with you on that.

Hey did you hear that we had a guy named Frank take us into chap 11 in '83. You know what the pilots did, they we on strike. What did the crews at US, and UA do in response to their chap11? Oh yeah they rolled over.

Hey the pilots at EA went out in support of the MX strike in 1989. Did you see what the pilots did over at NW when MX went out, or the US pilots during their MX strike in '93 (yr?) ? Oh yeah they rolled over.

Hey did you see that NW, and DL want to raise the RJ's to 70 seats and up, and outsource that flying? CO has had, and still has a 59 seat limit. And; until recently we have had the best flow through in the industry, bringing large numbers of our Express crews to the Mainline.

There is NOT one group of pilots that is above reproach. So don't start with me you idiot, this is a shi!@#y time, and of course I don't want US to pay the ERJ less than B6! Everyone is right on about the small victory for mainline flying.


UA B737 12yr CA $129/hr

CO B737 12yr CA $154/hr "D'uh"

You guys have a shietbox load of debt due 2 yrs down the road. How much longer do you think that pay rate will last?.... DUH!!

 

[FeelingBlue]

Weren't Jetblue guys bangin thier pots and pans about no one being able to get the 190 for 2 years?? or was it 1? Either way hopefully JB breaks them in so US doesn't have all the same startup issues.

Wow people are already bashing the payrates...that wasn't predictable ( I'm not justifying them).

It will be 2 years from October 2005 give or take a little. There are some benefits to being the launch customer. Trust me, you don't want them now anyway. Peace.