15 More Q400's for Colgan-CAL

[FMEpilot]

LPC:
Yes I am

 

[DTWFO]

And what exactly were the NEW terms to the agreement peanuckle and Detla came up with to keep the 900 flying..

Last time I checked that has not been disclosed yet...

I would still be very cautious, I think the relationship with Delta will come to an end soon. 9E is demonstrating that their future is with Continental and Q400's. Delta is demonstrating that their is no future for 200's. I think within a few years we'll look back to these days as the days that saved 9E... The largest Q400 operator in the country and exclusive partner of Contiental.

How excited does anyone think Delta is that the money they loose on every flight 9e operates a 200 on is profit in the back for 9e. Of which that same profit is buying bigger, newer, more efficient airplanes to compete against their #1 competitor out of the New York market. I'm sure Delta will not be subsidizing their competitor much longer...

Nothing is going to save 9E from it's inept, small-minded, money-grubbing, mis-management dolts. It's high time we put this airline and it's greedy fat cats out of it's misery. I'm willing to sacrafice my job to rid this industry of such an abortion of a management group.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

LPC:
Yes I am

Good. We need to make sure the Neg. Com. knows it.

 

[FMEpilot]

I tell them whenever I see them.

 

[V1cutsrfun]

You guys need to start getting paid for flying 74 people around.

Agreed! This time though... we have some 19 months to get a repsectable pay scale on the aircraft before the aircraft are delivered. I use before because to all the Nay sayers out there... we did get 15 more airframes, AFTER we voted to be represented. Further showing that growth and represention are independant of each other.

V1

 

[CALRepublic]

How does all this affect Express Jet??? Colgan getting Q400s is great for Colgan, not for express jet.....

 

[Mr Wu]

How does all this affect Express Jet??? Colgan getting Q400s is great for Colgan, not for express jet.....

Colgan get the flying that XJT got from CAL. What's the difference?

 

[OUPilot01]

Its not great news for us (xjt) but it really isn't good news for any pilots when higher paid jobs are being replaced by much lower paying jobs. Be it mainline jobs to xjt or xjt jobs to colgan. Plus this is almost 20 months away there is to many variables for things to change in the industry between now and then. Who would have thought 20 months ago (4/07), when everyone was hiring like crazy and there were talks of pilot shortages, things would be the way they are now.

 

[WSurf]

Hey now, they just organized.

Let's give them some time to negotiate a contract before we start calling names. Come to think of it, are you ready to walk for a better PDT contract?

Well here are the Rates Piedmont Voted yes for about a year ago, however the planes never got here.

Capt. rates not bad, but FO's side needs some work.

Good Luck

And yes we have 25 year guys here.

Captain * First Officer *
Year Rate Year Rate
1 $ 59.60 1 $ 28.50
2 $ 63.85 2 $ 32.81
3 $ 66.33 3 $ 34.17
4 $ 67.94 4 $ 35.51
5 $ 69.30 5 $ 36.86
6 $ 71.07 6 $ 37.50
7 $ 72.82 7 $ 38.15
8 $ 74.34 8 $ 38.48
9 $ 75.71 9 $ 38.79
10 $ 77.13 10 $ 40.07
11 $ 80.54
12 $ 83.09 add +1.75% for every year after 1st year
13 $ 85.77 until the day before the amendable date
14 $ 87.11
15 $ 88.84
16 $ 89.32
17 $ 89.97
18 $ 91.46
19 $ 92.98
20 $ 94.13
21 $ 94.46
22 $ 94.74
23 $ 95.07
24 $ 95.38
25 $ 96.02 add +1.75% for every year after 1st year until the day before the amendable date

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

We at PDT will never see the "mothership" dash, so we might as well let Colgan use our rates! Especially If they can improve on them somewhat.

 

[Quack]

15 more for colgan, all on the backs of the pinnacle guys...way to go!

 

[abun]

Yay for killing jobs at express jet who get paid more than colgan yet colgan flies a bigger plane. Yay for pulling down possibly more flying that a 73 could do instead for a turboprop. Yay for using a backdoor way to get around scope even though CAL is the only one smart enough to still hold onto it.

Yay for the 300 plus express jet guys looking for a job. maybe colgan will hire them. let me know i will write you a letter.

 

[abun]

15 more for colgan, all on the backs of the pinnacle guys...way to go!

yea, thanks pinnacle guys for all the hard work and sweat yall did to pay for the "15 more"!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dr King]

Yay for killing jobs at express jet who get paid more than colgan yet colgan flies a bigger plane. Yay for pulling down possibly more flying that a 73 could do instead for a turboprop. Yay for using a backdoor way to get around scope even though CAL is the only one smart enough to still hold onto it.

yay to the fact that we have jobs and this toolbox doesnt

 

[GEORGE DUBYA]

Yay to the fact that u went to embry riddle and are 22 years old and think you should be a captain already. I hope you get fuloughed and lose your medical. Dr. King rules the virgin va jay jay.

 

[ATA For Now!]

I'm trying to keep up, but it's hard so help me out here....Who is worse?

1- Republic guys for stealing Midwest Jobs
2- Colgan guys stealing xpress jet, co express, pinnacle or whoeverelse
3- Mesaba for stealing ASA Jobs
4- Go Jet for stealing whatever it is they're accused of
5-Trans states for taking eagle jobs...or is it the other way around...
6- Mainline pilots giving up SCOPE and letting all this nonsense happen

I can't figure it out anymore!!
(insert sarcasm here for those of you who "don't get it")

What will it take for all of you to figure out what is REALLY going on here?

 

[dcfu69]

NOBODY is STEALING anyones job you toolbag!! Yeah lets keep flying old worn out 737's on a 45min flt to bos and dca . CAL is getting rid of them anyways.. What do u want them to do?? put those stupid erj's on q routes? not gonna happen. Colgan will continue to grow and we WILL work towards better qol and pay. In the mean time... stop whining and enjoy playing xbox all day tools.

 

[ATA For Now!]

NOBODY is STEALING anyones job you toolbag!! Yeah lets keep flying old worn out 737's on a 45min flt to bos and dca . CAL is getting rid of them anyways.. What do u want them to do?? put those stupid erj's on q routes? not gonna happen. Colgan will continue to grow and we WILL work towards better qol and pay. In the mean time... stop whining and enjoy playing xbox all day tools.

Presicely why I put this....
I can't figure it out anymore!!
(insert sarcasm here for those of you who "don't get it")

What will it take for all of you to figure out what is REALLY going on here?

....in my answer.

So, who's the toolbag Assklown? Rule #1 is RTFQ.

 

[suupah]

name one regional that pays what pilots are worth.

 

[WSurf]

name one regional that pays what pilots are worth.

Depends on the plane flown. I think we at Piedmont get paid decent for a 37 seat plane. Airwiskey seem to pay good for a 50 seat RJ, and Horizon pays very well for a 70 Seat Prop and Jet.


How do you define a pilots worth? EMB170 for 23.00?