135 to Destination with no wx reporting

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Yes, you can shoot an instrument approach to that airport WITHOUT ANY weather reporting. That is the whole point. That's also why you're required to have an alternate that meets all the criteria, and HAS weather reporting.

Cliff
GRB

 

[NoPax]

Hi!

Yes, you can shoot an instrument approach to that airport WITHOUT ANY weather reporting. That is the whole point. That's also why you're required to have an alternate that meets all the criteria, and HAS weather reporting.

Cliff
GRB

As an eligable on-demand operator...

 

[CelticCitation]

Prof. ATP,

The paper work has been submitted, and is far short of what will finally be required. Considering that an MEL takes 13 months to turn around, it hasn't been a priority. Airports are getting weather reporting faster than we are getting stuff back from our POI.

All-

I don't have the stuff with me, but there are two seperate ops specs changes that go along with EOD operations. The first authorizes EOD, the second would authorize an airport analysis program. You can get approval for EOD and opt not to use the 80%, and only need the one page. The IOPPS has some pretty good guidance material if you click on the appropriate op specs number. These guidance materials (AC's, job aids, HBAT's) are most often more useful than info from a fed or maybe even from FI.

 

[100LL... Again!]

celtic-

what is IOPPS?

 

[JohnDoe]

quote:
"YOu cannot shoot an approach into and airport without the full ASOS, I belive that is the simple answer to the thread."


No, that is not really the simple answer to the thread.......Once again: if you are approved by the FAA as an "eligible on-demand operator," you do NOT have to have weather reporting at your destination.

 

[hawkerjet]

I think for the sake of brevity, pilothouston123 has the best way to get in to an airport with no wx reporting. i use to do this to get into SMO before it had wx reporting. i'd file to a fix on the vor approach and if i saw the field i'd land and if not go to my alternate, VNY. we also did the same thing to Carson City NV. we'd file to Reno and request lower to the MEA. if we saw the field we'd divert to our alternate, carson city. hope that helps

 

[CelticCitation]

100LL-

IOPPS is the industry opps network where your ops specs live. You can access it from the internet to make changes to, or view your op specs. Your CP or DO, or someone else in your company can access, but without going into too much detail, as there is a lot of training that goes along with it, each paragraph available from the op spec master list has all associated help that should go with each paragraph. Adding or modifying within op specs are not as simple a process as it appears from reading the regs. You must meet all the requirements of all the associated job aids or HBATS, etc. which can be hundreds of pages long. Then any other associated documents or manuals need to be submitted and approved, often a training program has to be submitted and approved, and then finally, whatever tracking system your manuals use must be submitted and approved. That is assuming that your POI does not come up with other requirements that only need to make sense to him. So as you can see, it can be a lot more complicated process than just submitting a letter of request.

 

[ksu_aviator]

Let me just try to clarify and simplify...the short answer is yes.

Here is how.

If the airport has an approved approach procedure, you have two possibilities.

1. For airports where the approach has an altimeter setting from another airport listed as an approved setting you may use that setting to fly the approach (assuming you are an eligible operator).

Example MQY ILS 32

Notice that in the notes it mentions using the Nashville altimeter setting rather than the Smyrna altimeter if the Smyrna altimeter setting cannot be obtained.

2. For airports that do not list an altimeter setting, you must consider that airport to be a VFR airport. Therefore, you treat it the same way, the forecast for that area must be such that you can make a descent from the MEA to the airport in VMC conditions.

In both cases you must list an alternate, regardless of the weather conditions.

Airports with out an approach procedure, then the descent from the MEA blah blah blah....all applies.

I hope that helps.