135 freight??

[Tug Driver]

true or false?

can you fly part 135 freight only with less than 1200TT? I was told that if you fly freight, not people, that the hour requirement was down around 800TT...

any truth?

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

No truth to it. You must have 1200 tt + all the rest for 135 IFR.

You can go 135 VFR with 500 hours though.

The only differences between freight and people hauling is equipment required for the aircraft, ie..auto pilot radar etc.

Sorry. But Somebody was pulling your leg, or has no idea what they are talking about.

 

[flyboycpa]

Not to pick nits....

Actually, as PIC, the requirements are 1200+ TT; however, if you are an SIC, then their is no minimum except those required for the Commercial tickets.

I only mention this as you might be looking around at some 135 jet jobs where total time wouldn't matter. Lots of 135 jet jobs (cargo mostly) are looking for pilots now.

flyboycpa

 

[falcondriver]

Thats right. No requirements for the SIC. I had to have the 135 times to fly the Baron 135 pic, but I have flown Falcon 20's 135 with co pilots that only had 400 hours.
FD

 

[Tug Driver]

No truth to it. You must have 1200 tt + all the rest for 135 IFR.

You can go 135 VFR with 500 hours though.

The only differences between freight and people hauling is equipment required for the aircraft, ie..auto pilot radar etc.

Sorry. But Somebody was pulling your leg, or has no idea what they are talking about.

so i could fly part135 with only 800 hrs, as long as i stay VFR?

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Yes you could. But I doubt that you will find anywhere to fly such a thing. VFR 135 is pretty much useless as far as making money goes.

I have heard of a few 135 VFR outfits in the southwest. AZ and NM and the other blistering hot dry states! Mostly special type of operations, such as............um......well I can't even remember what the operation did.

The point is, according to regs there is a 135 VFR operation, you will be hard pressed to actually find one though.

My advise would be to continue instructing for another 400 hours and then hit the 135 market. If you are not a CFI then catch a job hauling fattie tourists up and down the beaches during the summer. It ain't glamerous, but it does build the total time. Remember you cannot haul peeps from point A to B for hire unless your 135. You can haul peeps from point A to Point A (staying within 25 miles) and thats part 91. You do have to comply with the 135 regs concerning drug and Alc. testing though.

But as said above this is all for PIC. If you can score a SIC 135 job then your good. Hit all the Charter operators out there that use 2 pilots. Air Ambulance, etc...



Oh and about the fat tourists........BEWARE THE BIGGUN WITH THE GLOSSY LIPSTICK, THAT INVITES ALL THE PILOTS TO A FREE COOK OUT, WITH FREE BOOZE!!!!! ITS NOT FREE!!!! Oh the horror......poor old Harry was never the same. Lucky for us we were all faster runners than Harry! We extracted him the next morning, Ahh to be 20 again!, but only for a couple of weeks!

 

[labbats]

VFR 135 is common in sightseeing tours. Not much to sightsee in IFR.

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Sightseeing is part 91. That may change with the new ruling out but I doubt it.

 

[Tug Driver]

good to know, and a good definition i might add.

The flight school where i teach is applying for a 135 cert. the boss says that i could fly some parts or something, but i told him that i thought i needed 1200tt. hence the debate. looks like he plans to use a c172 to do this in. and your right, im better of flight instructing.

thanks for all the info..
nwo

 

[iflyabeech]

In Alaska, 135 VFR is the norm. There is a lot of IFR 135 also. But scheduled passenger service under VFR happens all of the time. There are many airports where you can get in VFR in lower weather than IFR. But, don't get too excited, it would be hard to find a PIC job up here with less than 1200TTL anyways. (the 1200TTL is for IFR, there is no minimum time to fly pax, except for the 135 PIC minimum of 500TTL)