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[Andy]

I really can not understand why you choose to make insulting comments rather than address the issues in discussion.

I think the issue has been a discussion about whether age-60 was being maintained as a safety issue or just something to get the senior pilots out of their seats. My position is the latter and the proof has been the record of those pilots over the last 5 years.

It is commonly said that when a person resorts to insults, it's because they have nothing left in their argument.

You chose to insult me first. I returned the insults. I'm done here, you delusional old fool.

 

[eaglesview]

Gotta love cyber muscles.

 

[Flopgut]

I think the issue has been a discussion about whether age-60 was being maintained as a safety issue or just something to get the senior pilots out of their seats. My position is the latter and the proof has been the record of those pilots over the last 5 years.

Who put who out of who's seat here?! You claim to have been fired for age. But the exact language of the rule change you spent all that time trying to make happen would have put you right back into the cockpit immediately*. Except you figured you were too good to sit in a seat like Andy's, so you didn't take the job. You decided it "wasn't worth it". So now you're going to pick at Andy because you think he's exaggerating about early retirement. It's no different than what happened to you Undaunted: The retirement age change has made Andy's last years five years as useless as you saw yours being!!** The reality is you took yourself AND Andy out. In fact, you put about as many pilots out of work as lorenzo did!! Nice job! Forgive us if we don't feel too "fraternal" toward you...

*For all you know, someone you wrote all those letters to was looking out for you personally and had that sentece (allowing your return) added trying to help you out. Should have just gone ahead from the beggining and let them know it was the seniority you wanted, not just an end to "discrimination".

**I think you should hang out Andy. I think it might get better than you think it will. I think you'll catch a break.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

The way it looks, if Andy stays with UAL he will probably just become a junior Captain about the time he turns age 60 or there abouts, and he says he will retire before that? I'll be waiting for my thank you note as he continues on to age 65. No body quits when they finally get in the left seat after a career of waiting.

 

[flyboyike]

No body quits when they finally get in the left seat after a career of waiting.

If it takes that long to see the left seat, I don't want it. By the time I'm sixty, I'll have more important things to worry about than how many stripes I'm wearing.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

You are simply a pathetic old man who did no financial preparation for retirement. Look in the mirror. You screwed up. You didn't save anything in spite of making big bucks for more than 5 years after 9/11.

You've probably gotten a reverse mortgage on your house. You're out there looking for any job you can get to earn a few bucks. And you can't even afford new clothes. Have you sold your motorcycle yet? You'll be selling off your possessions one by one to survive.

Everything I pointed out in my brief post about you was accurate. As I posted, you were wrong about the future of age 60 in most everything you posted, such as the medical aspect of flying past age 60 and predicting it would never pass. And the link to the accident you reference was a Part 91 operation by a 75-year old Lear pilot. Nice try but more BS trying to make your points.

Now for some facts that again point out the total BS in your post above: My home and everything I own is completely paid for. I have one wife, two cars, two motorcycles and no debts. I am completely retired. I do no work as a pilot or as a DPE or teaching a FIRC or anything else. I do no expert witness work. My income is from my B fund, investments, S/S and the PBGC. I have a kid in college studying electrical engineering and his tuition is paid by my early planning through participation in a 529 plan. I taught all my children to fly and after all that, I am retired.

I had nothing to do with the negotiations at UAL that brought on any type of changes to the CBA. I just flew my trips for 37-years, less furlough. No accidents, incidents, late shows or missed trips. Never failed a checkride.

So you see, again, your posts are totally inaccurate just like all your age 60 posts.

 

[pilotyip]

Everything I pointed out in my brief post about you was accurate. As I posted, you were wrong about the future of age 60 in most everything you posted, such as the medical aspect of flying past age 60 and predicting it would never pass. And the link to the accident you reference was a Part 91 operation by a 75-year old Lear pilot. Nice try but more BS trying to make your points.

Now for some facts that again point out the total BS in your post above: My home and everything I own is completely paid for. I have one wife, two cars, two motorcycles and no debts. I am completely retired. I do no work as a pilot or as a DPE or teaching a FIRC or anything else. I do no expert witness work. My income is from my B fund, investments, S/S and the PBGC. I have a kid in college studying electrical engineering and his tuition is paid by my early planning through participation in a 529 plan. I taught all my children to fly and after all that, I am retired.

I had nothing to do with the negotiations at UAL that brought on any type of changes to the CBA. I just flew my trips for 37-years, less furlough. No accidents, incidents, late shows or missed trips. Never failed a checkride.

So you see, again, your posts are totally inaccurate just like all your age 60 posts.

Good for you! nice touch of reality for the "get out of my seat crowd"

 

[SWA/FO]

Another one leaving tomorrow at SWA. Good Luck in retirement - salty!

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

Good for you! nice touch of reality for the "get out of my seat crowd"

Yes, I'm sorry to see that that crowd has not changed. They all feel so entitled just because they were born. I would guess that many support socialized everything: Obama care, school lunches, food stamps, welfare, public service unions, double dipping, etc.

 

[imacdog]

I didn't see UF turning down an upgrade when his coworkers were retiring at 60, did anyone else?

 

[SWA/FO]

entitled; to stay in the left seat 5 extra years because they were born and hired first? Cuts both way old man, time to move on. Just because you have no cards left to play - doesn't make any of us sad for you. Out with the old in with the new!!!

 

[bizicmo]

Yes, what you say is true but that was the economy, not the change to age 65. Unfortunately, the $hit hit the fan all at once: Age 65 and the economy.

So you admit that age 65 did cause people to lose their jobs. The 140ish people at CAL were furloughed because of age 65 and the economy went into recession. Age 65 was A reason that junior people lost their jobs.

The recession by itself would not have caused the 140ish people at CAL to be furloughed.

 

[livin'thesim]

Just glad they are gone.

 

[SXMp2c]

So this is what the Geezer Meter has become.

What a sad, sad hijack.

Time to un-sticky and let Undaunted and Yip use their CompuServe accounts to compare their reverse mortgages.

 

[Whataburger]

Interesting, indeed.