100 seat airplane comparison?'s

[enigma]

I almost hijacked the 717 thread, but decided to make a new one.

How do the 100 (approx) seat airliners compare? 717, EMB190, 737-600, etc.

I'm curious about: performance issues, efficiency, range, pax comfort issues, CASM, and any other comparisons you'd like to address.

I've recently heard the rumor that the "SWA is looking at EMB's", could have some validity. I've also discussed this with some SWA guys, and they believe that a 737-600 could be operated (by SWA) as cheaply as an EMB. I'm curious about the possibilities, besides we need more aviation on the bbs. (I'll get to religion later )

regards,
enigma

 

[DCitrus9]

Here is a comparison based on emb estimated numbers and boeing est. and actual numbers:

.............................EMB 190 ....................... B717
list price................30 mil ..............................30 mil
actual cost .............?.........................FL: less than 20 mil
seats(1 class/32").....98..............................117
Range ...................2200.................. 1430 (2060 w/ aux)
fuel burn/mi.............est. 13 lb/mi................. act. 14 lb/mi
note: actual burn varies with stage length and wind, numbers provided based on max range 0 wind. The 717 is more efficient than estimated, we will have to see if the EMB190 can do the same. FL currently runs tighter pitch, allowing 2 class with 117 seats.

 

[Jmmccutc]

on a recent trip to FL i asked the FA if they would mind letting me see the cabin after landing...i don't know much about the whole setup, but i was impressed with the 717, having also seen a ERJ145, and a 737. the layout just appeared more "user friendly" what is your guys take on this? what plane is more interactive or pilot friendly?

 

[enigma]

I'll add ground service considerations to the comparison list. because I've also heard that the EMB will be able to turn faster than a 73. I don't know, but I assume that inf to be correct.

I would have guessed that there wasn't a whits bit of difference between any of them in turn time. If one breaks the turn time catagory down even further, and looks at boarding seperately from baggage, etc, I would guess that the operators philosophy has more to do with turn time than airplane. However, I know that a 3 + 2 config can take an eternity to load compared to a 2 + 2. Heck Herbs people can make a 3 + 3 load like hopper car.

Also, what is the max altitude of the EMB and 717?

regards,
enigma

 

[DCitrus9]

717 is 370. EMB website shows 350 for performance figures, but doesn't actually list a max alt (that I saw, anyway).

 

[enigma]

DCitrus9, thanks. It's been a long time since I flew something that could get higher than 370; but when I last had the capability, I found that getting higher than 390 greatly facilitated direct clearances. In this game, every advantage, even the small ones, make a big difference.

regards,
enigma