The next 5 yrs at Flex

[Imissmypilot]

Domestic Red Label was done by seniority if you signed up. Those that didn't got left behind; their own fault.

Also complacency has nothing to do with Red Label. You are either a good pilot or your not

Bull****. Self justifying much? Tell that to dozens of pilots who were passed over for special picks. The team concept is ridiculously high school.

I had this very discussion with one of the union leaders who happens to be in Red Label not to mention dozens of others. I have done my research as well.

The general consensus is if you are benefitting you are too deluded to see the truth of it, even if you are union supportive.

My biggest departure from wanting to be involved in this union is my inherent disagreement with all things Red Label. The union fought to protect you guys. You have no idea what they protected you from. I thought they should have let you guys twist in the wind. They didn't.

It's Christmas so I don't want to say FU for your post. But any other day I'd tell you what a self deluded prick you are...

 

[jetmaster727]

Normally I would tell you to go F ur self but since it's xmas give you benefit of the doubt.

You are right when it comes to international red label. Placements were by the good ol boy system. Not so in domestic red label. Obviously you don't know what you are talking about

 

[Imissmypilot]

Ah good. Glad to see we can trade some light hearted barbs without it getting out of control.

Seriously though JetMaster you are the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. The team concept has made and is making it possible for pilots (some of whom could not hold craft type captain at the time of their placement in RL) to leapfrog over other pilots who should have gotten those slots.

The fact is RL both types is not given in pure seniority order and that's a problem.

Sure the team concept depends on individuals who can work well together but only to a limited extent since the reality is they are seldom paired anyway.

The truth is special consideration is given in all sorts of ways still to this day. Look at the DS situation. Look at new metal assignments. But that's another discussion. Let's get back to pure straight seniority.

We use the POC Red Label standouts as an example. Out of the 3 who were in the program 2/3 of them could not hold that position on seniority AT ALL. They were barely 45 captains (one might have still been an FO). They got those positions despite those facts and despite the fact guys 100 numbers senior to them were waiting months longer or still have not gotten an assignment.

Why should someone who should best case scenario be a 45 Captain make 100k more than an actual 300 Captain?

Straight seniority is not part of the Red Label Program. Prove me wrong. You red label people try so hard to justify it but if you'd pull back for one minute and look at reality you'd see the problem.

You got yours. Good for you. Enjoy the money. But don't pretend it didn't happen on the backs of other people.

 

[Brit]

Merry Christmas!

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. That reminds me, what ever happened to the Christmas bonus the Options pilots once got?

 

[shanes123]

KR gave it to those pukes at ND

 

[Bjtdrvr]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. That reminds me, what ever happened to the Christmas bonus the Options pilots once got?

Ah yes!! The good ol 50 dollar Omaha Steaks giftcard!!!! I forgot about that!!!

 

[Cautious Belly]

How many runway overruns can FX get in the next five years, that’s the real question.

 

[Bjtdrvr]

At least one more.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...vate-plane-slides-off-bend-runway-no-injuries

 

[Dirty Squirrel]

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