2015

[rajflyboy]

2015 = 75 percent vote yes deal?

Not so goody after all?

new deal in the pipeline?

Just remember. No votes are ok people.

 

[doh]

Huh? What?

 

[rajflyboy]

u know exactly what

 

[doh]

As a matter of fact, I have no idea wtf you are talking about. Flexjet has never had a deal and Options last vote on a deal was 2010. Is this a Netjets reference?

 

[doh]

If this is about the union at one guy...er...oneski, where did you get 75% from? And Phildo as my Rep is no "deal", old or new. That would be a travesty.

 

[Pervis]

We are embarking on an Interim Based Initiative at Netjets. Trying to avoid the normal chaos with Section 6 bargaining.

 

[Imissmypilot]

Not everything is about Fleecejet guys.

If you want my opinion it sounds like NJASAP is making a smart move based on industry trends and uncertainty. Likewise BH is making a smart move if they comply to shore up stability based on the same reasons. They can capitalize market share by being done with labor issues before their competitors even start. Right now given all the media attention labor disputes are getting it is and will continue to be a serious concern for customers/owners.

If I were management at TMC I would pay attention. It would behoove them to settle up with something worthwhile now before it hurts. I'd say the same for Farquaad but it would be a waste of space.

 

[doh]

We are embarking on an Interim Based Initiative at Netjets. Trying to avoid the normal chaos with Section 6 bargaining.

Now I know what this is about. Yes raj, it is okay to vote "no", as long as you are voting your true opinion and not what someone is pressuring you to vote.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Given the fact that the usual shills are ALREADY wallpapering the union board, BOHICA boys and girls.

Just spitballing here but I'm guessing I'll be voting NO.

Again.

 

[rajflyboy]

Given the fact that the usual shills are ALREADY wallpapering the union board, BOHICA boys and girls.

Just spitballing here but I'm guessing I'll be voting NO.

Again.

Hopefully the pilot group is wiser on this nonsense. Need to vote to make this a better place to work. Don't believe the best and last offer nonsense. Don't believe the quit if you don't like it rhetoric.

And don't believe folks that wont even be here when this 2015 contract will be up in 6 more years.

 

[rajflyboy]

Need a mandatory retirement age

unfortunately

 

[CALRepublic]

Yes we do.

Rumor has it a number of owners have expressed concern about some of our "senior" aviators

 

[rajflyboy]

Ego's are cashing checks but the accounts don't have the money to pay the bill

 

[realityman]

Best thing to do is simply read what's offered (if we even get that far. There's no guarantee our NC will come to any kind of agreement) and vote as you think best.

I do love all the guys screaming that the duration is too long, and we'll have to wait FOREVER before we'll have another opportunity to make improvements, then when the opportunity comes along those same folks are screaming they don't trust anyone, it's going to be terrible (they just KNOW it!), and the company can just go sit and spin and they'd rather go with status quo than entertain a negotiating opportunity at this time.

Some funny stuff right there!

I'm going to remain out of the debate this time. Some folks have already made up their minds before our negotiators have sat down for the first session. There'll be no convincing those folks. IF we have something presented to us to vote on, I'll read it, weigh the pros and cons, and vote on what's best for my family, my coworkers and myself.

It'll either pass or it won't. Life will go on either way. At the very least I hope the bargaining part works out (such that we end up with something to vote on). I much prefer this approach then the typical vitriol of section 6 bargaining.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Best thing to do is simply read what's offered (if we even get that far. There's no guarantee our NC will come to any kind of agreement) and vote as you think best.

I do love all the guys screaming that the duration is too long, and we'll have to wait FOREVER before we'll have another opportunity to make improvements, then when the opportunity comes along those same folks are screaming they don't trust anyone, it's going to be terrible (they just KNOW it!), and the company can just go sit and spin and they'd rather go with status quo than entertain a negotiating opportunity at this time.

Some funny stuff right there!

I'm going to remain out of the debate this time. Some folks have already made up their minds before our negotiators have sat down for the first session. There'll be no convincing those folks. IF we have something presented to us to vote on, I'll read it, weigh the pros and cons, and vote on what's best for my family, my coworkers and myself.

It'll either pass or it won't. Life will go on either way. At the very least I hope the bargaining part works out (such that we end up with something to vote on). I much prefer this approach then the typical vitriol of section 6 bargaining.

Since ML is negotiating it, and the usual suspects are ALREADY selling it, yup, I'm a NO vote. And something WILL come to a vote. To think otherwise is truly naive.

The only question that remains is which subsection of the membership gets hosed this time.