Adios USAPA

[Sandhawk]

Adios USAPA - NMB rules SCS for Pilots

NMB ruled Single Carrier for the American Pilots today...

T minus 30 days and counting!

 

[gutshotdraw]

Ding, Dong the witch is dead.

 

[pave driver]

Ding, Dong the witch is dead.

Unfortunately USAPA will be here through the SLI negotiations. Per the NMB, the US Airways FAs will still be represented by their old union through the integration timeframe. The NMB will do the same for the US pilots for the SLI with the AA pilots even though APA will be our union. So, USAPA is not dead yet.

 

[Carl S.]

Usapa is going away real soon, if they have any say in the SLI they must have cut a deal this week during mediation on the PA and that is pure speculation that they came of their DOH Uber Alles hard line stance.

 

[Turtle21]

Unfortunately USAPA will be here through the SLI negotiations. Per the NMB, the US Airways FAs will still be represented by their old union through the integration timeframe. The NMB will do the same for the US pilots for the SLI with the AA pilots even though APA will be our union. So, USAPA is not dead yet.

AOL has Liberty Ties. The NMB is partial to Liberty Ties. The NMB decision may not mirror the FA decision, or it might.

 

[pave driver]

AOL has Liberty Ties. The NMB is partial to Liberty Ties. The NMB decision may not mirror the FA decision, or it might.

Ha...funny. I think the NMB will decide the same for USAPA and APA and view two labor unions similar as the two FA unions although FA and pilots are no where near similar in terms of "careers".

 

[pave driver]

Usapa is going away real soon, if they have any say in the SLI they must have cut a deal this week during mediation on the PA and that is pure speculation that they came of their DOH Uber Alles hard line stance.

No one wants DOH accept the few hired around '89. The SLI will not be DOH. It will be various factors but not strick DOH.

 

[Carl S.]

East pilots spent 6 extra years on LOA 93 wages and rules to delay the AAA/AWA integration and you love to harp on ties over $250K plus left on the table during your last years working....what am I missing in the math in $250k vs $675 ties?

 

[Carl S.]

DOH is not even on the radar so stop embarrassing yourself by even introducing it to the equation and leave it to your wet dreams....

 

[pave driver]

DOH is not even on the radar so stop embarrassing yourself by even introducing it to the equation and leave it to your wet dreams....

Agreed. DOH will never happen. I believe USAPA and all involved knows this.

 

[DCAA320]

East pilots spent 6 extra years on LOA 93 wages and rules to delay the AAA/AWA integration and you love to harp on ties over $250K plus left on the table during your last years working....what am I missing in the math in $250k vs $675 ties?

Why is it that the west losers complain the most about the East pay? I ain't seen too many skinny East pilots so clearly, after all the alimonies, the East guys are not starving.

 

[St. Nic]

westicle scum can't contain there jealousy pathetic scab group if i ever saw one

Usapa is going to be here the whole way through SLI

Mark my words!

 

[get2flyin]

westicle scum can't contain there jealousy pathetic scab group if i ever saw one

Usapa is going to be here the whole way through SLI

Mark my words!

You truly are the poster boy for USAPA. The hatred. The name calling. The factless statememts. What crazy ideology are you going to cling to after they're gone? Maybe you can go join one of those wacko anti goverment groups in Idaho. Best of luck to you.

 

[St. Nic]

You truly are the poster boy for USAPA. The hatred. The name calling. The factless statememts. What crazy ideology are you going to cling to after they're gone? Maybe you can go join one of those wacko anti goverment groups in Idaho. Best of luck to you.

USAPA has a good chance of surviving. Lot of TWA and Eagle guys hate APA. Throw in 4000 energized USAPA pilots and I can see the APA becoming the victim of their own greed. Couldn't happen to a nice bunch I say!
APA is not your friend. Just ask the TWA pilots!!

 

[RJLoser]

USAPA has a good chance of surviving. Lot of TWA and Eagle guys hate APA. Throw in 4000 energized USAPA pilots and I can see the APA becoming the victim of their own greed!!

That was good for a laugh.

 

[Carl S.]

Pay is why we come to work and bid and fly what we can hold. To deny your self a raise while going down the path of the lowest form of organized labor in airline history is beyond comprehension to most. You guys are always bringing up the ties which equates to a $675 donation. Good luck raising anything on your own once your beloved Usapa is Usaped out of existence very soon.


P.S.- the loser my be you very soon.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

USAPA has a good chance of surviving. Lot of TWA and Eagle guys hate APA. Throw in 4000 energized USAPA pilots and I can see the APA becoming the victim of their own greed. Couldn't happen to a nice bunch I say!
APA is not your friend. Just ask the TWA pilots!!

You'd have to lever your seniority as quid for the unity... Let's face it, that's not been USAPA's modus operandi.

 

[TWA Dude]

APA is not your friend. Just ask the TWA pilots!!

When the choices are "bad" or "worse" you choose "bad". Pretty funny you think USAPA has a chance at getting 50% showing-of-interest. I think I'll submit a card for alpa just to piss you off.

 

[Turtle21]

East pilots spent 6 extra years on LOA 93 wages and rules to delay the AAA/AWA integration and you love to harp on ties over $250K plus left on the table during your last years working....what am I missing in the math in $250k vs $675 ties?

The West paid far more than $675 in an attempt to get the windfall. They have a receipt for what they bought, and court documents prove they got a lemon.

The only ones documenting the "opportunity losses" on the East are message board posters in a bad mood.

 

[Carl S.]

$250K plus for every East pilot but the few who upgraded over this Usapa disaster of 6 years plus...and we are right back at trying to do the AWA/AAA list together with the long shadow of the Nic. looking over your shoulder...brilliant! Think positive, you are getting a 1.45% raise next month and then a 3 months dues holiday from APA till Dec.....USAPA refund maybe...Only East pilots could stop the Usapa train with their majority, we could only tally your financial mistakes as they piled up and the industry watched your downfall.