Wall Street airline selloff

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June 12, 2014 1:26 PM
The Short Story on the Airline Selloff
By LIAM DENNING
Islamic insurgents in Iraq can be blamed for many things, but they aren't the main factor in this week's airlines selloff.
Delta Air Lines, the biggest by market value, slumped Thursday. The sector overall has lost the gains of the past two weeks. Many have blamed the jump in oil prices amid Iraqi violence.
Yet the sector's relationship with fuel costs isn't what it was. In the five years through 2008, if oil prices went up, airline stocks generally fell. But in the past three years—roughly since the start of Libya's civil war—oil has been flat while the sector has more than doubled.
Airline stocks did fall heavily through the first 10 months of 2011 as Libya's war intensified. But oil's initial surge stalled in May of that year and the sector's weakness likely had as much to do with Europe's intensifying economic crisis.
What has given the sector resilience against high oil prices is consolidation and rationalization. That has led to full planes and high ticket prices.
But investors appear to have forgotten that this remains a notoriously cyclical and highly leveraged industry. And worrying signs about global growth are accumulating, be it Deutsche Lufthansa's weakening guidance or the World Bank cutting economic forecasts.
That is a problem after such a sustained rally for airlines. Short interest, representing bets that stocks will fall, is now down to just 2% of the sector's float, from about 5% at the end of last year, according to UBS.
JetBlue Airways is the exception, with short interest of 20%. That its shares surged more than one-fifth in May despite falling earnings estimates on the back of weak first-quarter results adds to the sense that investors had run ahead of themselves.
Iraq may have provided the excuse, but the seeds of this selloff were sown on Wall Street.

 

[LearLove]

What? We pull out of Iraq and the bad guys come flooding back in. Say it isn't so. Never saw that one coming.

 

[scarlet]

The worst Resume to hold this office !!

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

The worst Resume to hold this office !!

But Ronnie Raygun had "actor" on his resume before governor, and that got us huge deficit spending involving our military (let's kick Grenada's arse) and Iran Contra......talk about a scandal.

 

[JumpersAway]

Whoa, whoa, whoa there Bill! This is Obama's fault. Do not attempt to shift blame away from Obama. Everything is his fault, all the time. Can't you keep up with Fox news?

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

my bad Jumpers.....

Faux news knows all.

 

[Tarheelherk]

I just love revisionist history. I guess double digit unemployment, massive inflation and 14% interest rates under Carter just cured themselves! Iran contra never killed a single US ambassador and when Beruit happened we had a standup guy who took full responsibility for it and vowed to not let that happen again. It didn't under his watch. Tip O'Neal and Reagan had a working dinner every Friday night unless other engagements kept them from it. That's what leads do!

 

[JohnQ]

Do you guys honestly think that if McCain or Romney had won either election, that this fiasco in Iraq would be going on the way it is? Give me a break.

Guess what? The ISIS terrorist don't give a rats ass about the president's "concerns" nor do they care about "UN resolutions condemning such and such blah blah blah."

Apparently President Obama actually believes his own press releases, and has mistaken the adoration of doe-eyed, ignorant college students as somehow indicative of how the rest of the world thinks. If only it were that easy. But that is what you get when a "community organizer" who was 99 out of 100 in senate seniority, and whose sole qualifications for the office was that he looks good in a suit and makes pretty-sounding (though completely vacuous and non-specific) speeches, is elected by the "I'm getting me some of that Obama money" public.

 

[Ty Webb]

I just love revisionist history. I guess double digit unemployment, massive inflation and 14% interest rates under Carter just cured themselves! Iran contra never killed a single US ambassador and when Beruit happened we had a standup guy who took full responsibility for it and vowed to not let that happen again. It didn't under his watch. Tip O'Neal and Reagan had a working dinner every Friday night unless other engagements kept them from it. That's what leads do!

Yep. Obama's legacy is looking more and more like the inept Carter admin's every day.

 

[scoreboardII]

Dis the Gipper all you want, he actually had experience in apposition of leadership unlike the current White House jockey.

 

[Andy]

What? We pull out of Iraq and the bad guys come flooding back in. Say it isn't so. Never saw that one coming.

Even Biden was able to conclude what is the best solution - slice the country in three and dump the artificial borders that occurred after WWI when the French and Germans chopped up the Ottoman Empire. He came up with that back in 2006. Of course the plan had been pushed by the Pentagon since ~2002, but had they gone forth with that plan, it probably would have saved a lot of current pain. http://www.alternet.org/story/64433/congress_wants_to_split_iraq_in_three_pieces,_but_who_asked_them

My money's on Iraq ending up in 3 pieces when the dust settles.

 

[jonjuan]

Yep. Obama's legacy is looking more and more like the inept Carter admin's every day.

Yep-cue the Rachel mad cows zombies talking points in 3, 2, 1............

 

[waveflyer]

Yep. Obama's legacy is looking more and more like the inept Carter admin's every day.

Yay, just what we need at southwest: more ideological- highly paid union workers of the extreme right wing type who will defend their socialistic seniority to the death, while having delusions of grandeur that they are the 1% everyone's mad at



It's comical during airline good times- very sad during financial distress when we actually need to support our unions the most

 

[waveflyer]

Even Biden was able to conclude what is the best solution - slice the country in three and dump the artificial borders that occurred after WWI when the French and Germans chopped up the Ottoman Empire. He came up with that back in 2006. Of course the plan had been pushed by the Pentagon since ~2002, but had they gone forth with that plan, it probably would have saved a lot of current pain. http://www.alternet.org/story/64433/congress_wants_to_split_iraq_in_three_pieces,_but_who_asked_them

My money's on Iraq ending up in 3 pieces when the dust settles.

Good analysis, I agree

But waaayy too complex for most of this crowd

 

[zasca]

The British drew the lines on the map that created Iraq... And how long exactly were we supposed to keep soldiers there?? Shiite tribes suddenly controlling their oppressors (who happen to also be all the bureaucrats) and the only guys who have their act together (kurds) have wanted to break away since 1991 (along with half the oil). This situation was inevitable. Almost like we should seen it coming before we ever invaded. Oh wait, who's idea was that? Riiiiiiight.... Both parties suck equally at nation building, so stop whining like little girls and support whatever guy who wants to spend billions on a viable replacement for oil, instead of body bags and juicy halliburton contracts.

 

[brokedash]

It not about this country or another country, that is the lie they sell us to keep people from the truth. It about every countries favorite citizen, debt based currency systems and putting the people of a nation further in the hole.

 

[Smarta$$]

The British drew the lines on the map that created Iraq... And how long exactly were we supposed to keep soldiers there?? Shiite tribes suddenly controlling their oppressors (who happen to also be all the bureaucrats) and the only guys who have their act together (kurds) have wanted to break away since 1991 (along with half the oil). This situation was inevitable. Almost like we should seen it coming before we ever invaded. Oh wait, who's idea was that? Riiiiiiight.... Both parties suck equally at nation building, so stop whining like little girls and support whatever guy who wants to spend billions on a viable replacement for oil, instead of body bags and juicy halliburton contracts.

This is the only intelligent post so far.