UAL ISL question

[stillflyn]

Does anyone know if a pilot's original DOH is kept for the jumpseat, pass travel and dead heading after the ISL? How did it work for the pilots at DAL/NWA?

Thanks,

Stillflyn

 

[Twotter Driver]

If the past is any indicator, YES. DOH will still apply for Jumpseat and pass travel purposes. It has with all the previous mergers at CAL.

 

[IAHERJ]

If the past is any indicator, YES. DOH will still apply for Jumpseat and pass travel purposes. It has with all the previous mergers at CAL.

Huh? DOH only applies to pass travel. Jumpseat is system seniority when it is processed, despite the screen shot on employee res prior to the agent processing it.

 

[Twotter Driver]

Huh? DOH only applies to pass travel. Jumpseat is system seniority when it is processed, despite the screen shot on employee res prior to the agent processing it.

My bad. I once flew with an old frontier guy hired in the mid seventies that commuted from DEN that always bragged about bumping the scabs from the Jumpseat even though they were senior to him on the seniority list. I may have understood him wrong though.

 

[eaglesview]

I think the JS goes DOH just like pass travel.

 

[General Lee]

That's too bad. At my airline it is first come, first serve---on the phone, computer, or showing up at the gate.(6 days out going to work, 5 going home) None of that "I'm senior to you, you're off buddy" crap! It's so much better IMO. Good luck with that!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Saluki Dawg]

Just like at good ole Southwest! See General, we're exactly alike. Merry Christmas from Lubbock!

 

[General Lee]

Just like at good ole Southwest! See General, we're exactly alike. Merry Christmas from Lubbock!

Oh Snap! We are alike, except.....different. Have fun in Lubbuttocks!

Merry Xmas!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[IAHERJ]

I think the JS goes DOH just like pass travel.

And I know it doesn't.

 

[eaglesview]

OK, We'll see'

 

[filejw]

And I know it doesn't.

In most mergers stuff like pass travel and j/s goes date of hire. In my case 4 mergers all the same.

 

[pianoman]

J/s is seniority based, and whatever the new isl list is will dictate that. It's a separate animal from pass travel, which will be DOH. So someone could be ahead of you for one and behind in the other in some scenarios.

 

[IAHERJ]

OK, We'll see'

To be clear, I don't care how it goes post ISL. I was clarifying how it is done today. For example, we have ex Express guys with travel board dates in the 1990's who were transitioned over to mainline CAL in 2006 etc. These pilots are junior to 2005 and below hires who hired on prior to them at mainline yet show senior when viewing the employee res pass rider list for a flight. When the agent clears the jumpseat, the actual jumpseat is prioritized by system seniority which can be vastly different then the date of hire of the pilot js list. A extreme example is a 1979 board date that transitioned to CAL in 1993.

I hope this all is cleaned up with the ISL.

 

[eaglesview]

It will be cleaned upy the ISL. Could go any of a number of ways. I'm of the mindset to get all this crap behind us and press on.