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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]DALLAS (AP) -- Southwest Airlines workers who load planes are protesting in Chicago over what they say is the company's plan to outsource some of their jobs.
Members of the Transport Workers Union handed out leaflets Tuesday to passengers at Chicago's Midway Airport to explain their side in contract negotiations that began last July but have resulted in little progress.
TWU Local 555 represents 8,400 Southwest employees. It says Southwest wants authority to replace up to 20 percent of them with workers provided by independent contractors.
Local President Charles Cerf said the employees have handled bigger workloads because of Southwest's policy of not charging for checked bags and that service would suffer if the airline used contract workers.
"Southwest has never been so adamant about wanting to outsource jobs and use contract workers," Cerf said.
Southwest spokesman Paul Flaningan said that Southwest "remains committed to negotiating a contract that protects job stability and benefits" of the employees "while at the same time protecting Southwest's long-term profitability." He declined to comment on specific proposals, citing ongoing negotiations.
Dallas-based Southwest carries more U.S. passengers than any airline, and Midway is the busiest airport in its system, according to the company's website.
About 82 percent of Southwest employees are represented by a union. The company is expected to begin new contract negotiations this year and next year with pilots, flight attendants, customer-service agents and other employees.
In an industry known for tense labor-management relations, Southwest's record has been more peaceful than most other airlines. The company says it has never had layoffs in its 41-year history. Including its AirTran Airways subsidiary, Southwest Airlines Co. has about 45,000 employees.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Me thinks dark clouds are on the horizon
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Thats what happens when you buy another airline, why is this a suprise?

Not quite. You guys are going through a paradigm shift at SWA. The purchase of AT is part of that massive change, but not the cause. The cause starts with the GO and with the BoD. I think it's somewhat comparable to the changes that NASCAR has gone through. Once a redneck sport for purists, NASCAR evolved in the mid 90's to a mainstream sport. It's our "F1" of racing in the states, in terms of revenue (not performance).
 
Not quite. You guys are going through a paradigm shift at SWA. The purchase of AT is part of that massive change, but not the cause. The cause starts with the GO and with the BoD. I think it's somewhat comparable to the changes that NASCAR has gone through. Once a redneck sport for purists, NASCAR evolved in the mid 90's to a mainstream sport. It's our "F1" of racing in the states, in terms of revenue (not performance).

That's what I was trying to say. You just said it mo better.
 
I think it's somewhat comparable to the changes that NASCAR has gone through. Once a redneck sport for purists, NASCAR evolved in the mid 90's to a mainstream sport. It's our "F1" of racing in the states, in terms of revenue (not performance).


...and you can thank Tony George for that!
 
Come on, Dan, it's not a Southwest thread if you don't mention the "warrior spirit." ;)
 
very interesting to see southwest doing this. this goes back to what gary was saying last fall. the other airlines now have a cost advantage on sw. add that to the fact that sw collects no fees, and you can see where a lot of potential revenue is being left on the table. the money ahs to come from somewhere. if the flying public ever figures out that sw doesnt always have the lowest fare, things could really get interesting.
 
Sorry, let's see.......how about the "Warrior Spirit is fine for Nascar, but not when you are taxing an airliner!?

Much better. :)
 
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]"...Including its AirTran Airways subsidiary...."


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adj \səb-ˈsi-dē-ˌer-ē, -ˈsi-də-rē\
Definition of SUBSIDIARY

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a : furnishing aid or support

b : of secondary importance


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Seriously.

are you really holding the company accountable for something the media publishes about business? i'm not defending the company per se, but how often does the media f' up info about our industry? i know how bad they screw up airline industry info so i'm inclined to believe they screw up other industry's info also.
 
SWA is under a lot of pressure to maintain profitability.
 
Whether or not the above posts hold any truth to SWA is debateable. However, none of them have to do why SWA wants to outsource the ground ops jobs. They only want to do it in places where they have very few flights per week. It does not make sense to have full time personnel in place when they are only needed at certain times. Now, I believe that lets the camel's nose under the tent so I wouldn't like it either.
 
Whether or not the above posts hold any truth to SWA is debateable. However, none of them have to do why SWA wants to outsource the ground ops jobs. They only want to do it in places where they have very few flights per week. It does not make sense to have full time personnel in place when they are only needed at certain times. Now, I believe that lets the camel's nose under the tent so I wouldn't like it either.

I agree Bake. It will be sold one way and implemented another way. Our west coast operations started out as seasonal, but when we went year round, the contract staff stayed. AT likely choose that route to avoid California employment laws and because while staffing would be year round, the number of flights would still vary greatly over the year. It can work, but there would have to be caps. Uhhh, sorta like scope...
 
These are WN employees protesting. Are they protesting because some of the smaller AT cities will be outsourced (ala FNT where ground personel have been told they will be outsourced), or will WN be outsourcing their own cities as well? Is this like SWAPA forcing WN mgmt to get rid of the FL RJ operation? In both cases, I'd support the employees wanting to keep all work in-house.
 
What is the hourly pay rate for a Southwest Airlines Ramp agent, Customer service agent, and provisioning agent? Don't factor in all the overtime this folks make.
 
They agreed to it on their last contract. Anything less then 8 or 12 flights per day can be outsourced.
 
They agreed to it on their last contract. Anything less then 8 or 12 flights per day can be outsourced.
The outsourcing is only for new cities. All SWA cities at the time that the contract was signed were grandfathered, no matter how few flights that they had.
 
Whether or not the above posts hold any truth to SWA is debateable. However, none of them have to do why SWA wants to outsource the ground ops jobs. They only want to do it in places where they have very few flights per week. It does not make sense to have full time personnel in place when they are only needed at certain times. Now, I believe that lets the camel's nose under the tent so I wouldn't like it either.

I didn't hear anything and even forgot my name after I saw your avatar!!
 

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