A380 Crash

[uspilot]

SINGAPORE | Wed Nov 3, 2010 11:30pm EDT

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Qantas told CNBC television that a plane that crashed near Singapore was an Airbus A380. No other details were immediately available.
The plane can carry more than 500 passengers. Witnesses said they had heard an explosion over the Indonesian island of Batam.


Hope all are well....sad day....

 

[uspilot]

Better news

A Qantas A380 has been forced to return to Singapore's Changi Airport after pilots were forced to shut down one of its four engines.
QF32 was bound for Sydney when the engine failed.
A Qantas spokesman said the problems were with engine number two. She did not know why the engine had to be shut down.
The incident sparked widespread rumours over the internet through PPRuNe, that the plane had crashed, which Qantas said were wildly inaccurate.

 

[LongBeachTrijet]

Judging from the photo, the pilots didn't shut down the engine. It looks more like the engine blew itself up and the pilots simply put the switches in the right place

Qantas grounded the 380 fleet. Will they call Travolta for his 707 to help mitigate the lost capacity?

 

[dougdrvr]

Why are the nose gear dors open?

 

[LongBeachTrijet]

Inflight Pax Video

 

[flyboyike]

Why are the nose gear dors open?

Hydraulic failure. Speaking of that, it appears the Flying Halibut uses only two hydraulic systems and they run at 5000psi. Seems like not enough redundancy, especially in a piece of metal that huge.

 

[stupidpilot]

Qantas is reporting that they found oil leaks in three engines on their A380 fleet. Is this a load of BS? Isn't the A380 a fully computerized aircraft that will automatically shut down an engine due to high oil temp, low level or low pressure?

I don't know the Airbus as I have never flown one. Does anybody have some more knowledge about it's systems that can answer this better?

 

[WYOMINGPILOT]

This is why I fly Boeing!!!

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From a Qantas mate who knows one of the flight deck crew.

This was just a brief summary.
Loss of brake anti skid system, and other undercarriage problems, tyres blown on landing, used all of Singapore’s 4000M runway.
QF spin doctors doing overtime in Sydney trying to keep the lid on all of this.
A380s grounded for more than just engine problems.

More to come. Scary stuff.



1. Bus #2 is supposedly automatically powered by Bus #1 in the event of Engine #2 failure - didn't happen.




2. Buses #3 & #4 will supposedly power Bus #2 in the even that the auto transfer from Bus #1 fails - didn't happen.




3. After some time the RAT deployed for no apparent reason, locking out (as a load-shedding function) some still functioning services.




4. One of the frequently recurring messages warned of the aircraft approaching the aft CoG limit (the procedure calls for transferring fuel forward), the next message advised of fwd transfer pumps being u/s. This sequence occurred repeatedly.




5. Apparently landing/approach speeds are obtained from the FMS, but there weren't anywhere near sufficient fields to load all the defects for speed corrections - the crew loaded what they thought were the most critical ones.




6. The crew commenced an approach NOT because they'd sorted out all the problems but because they were very worried about the way-out-of-tolerance and steadily worsening lateral imbalance.




7. The aircraft stopped with just over 100 metres or runway left, brakes temps climbed to 900C and fuel pouring out of the ruptured tank. Unable to shutdown #1 engine (as previously mentioned) but elected not to evacuate at the fire services were attending in great numbers.




8. The other comment from the source of the above (who was on the flight deck) was that the aeroplane did many things they simply didn't understand and/or failed to operate as expected.






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[WYOMINGPILOT]

This is why I fly Boeing!!!

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From a Qantas mate who knows one of the flight deck crew.

This was just a brief summary.
Loss of brake anti skid system, and other undercarriage problems, tyres blown on landing, used all of Singapore’s 4000M runway.
QF spin doctors doing overtime in Sydney trying to keep the lid on all of this.
A380s grounded for more than just engine problems.

More to come. Scary stuff.



1. Bus #2 is supposedly automatically powered by Bus #1 in the event of Engine #2 failure - didn't happen.




2. Buses #3 & #4 will supposedly power Bus #2 in the even that the auto transfer from Bus #1 fails - didn't happen.




3. After some time the RAT deployed for no apparent reason, locking out (as a load-shedding function) some still functioning services.




4. One of the frequently recurring messages warned of the aircraft approaching the aft CoG limit (the procedure calls for transferring fuel forward), the next message advised of fwd transfer pumps being u/s. This sequence occurred repeatedly.




5. Apparently landing/approach speeds are obtained from the FMS, but there weren't anywhere near sufficient fields to load all the defects for speed corrections - the crew loaded what they thought were the most critical ones.




6. The crew commenced an approach NOT because they'd sorted out all the problems but because they were very worried about the way-out-of-tolerance and steadily worsening lateral imbalance.




7. The aircraft stopped with just over 100 metres or runway left, brakes temps climbed to 900C and fuel pouring out of the ruptured tank. Unable to shutdown #1 engine (as previously mentioned) but elected not to evacuate at the fire services were attending in great numbers.




8. The other comment from the source of the above (who was on the flight deck) was that the aeroplane did many things they simply didn't understand and/or failed to operate as expected.






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[Dornier 335]

This is why I fly Boeing!!!

Tell us more about the prefect and invincible Boeing, like 73 rudders, holes in fuselages, etc.

From a Qantas mate who knows one of the flight deck crew.

Says it all ...

Just wait until the Dreamliner flies the line

 

[overseas boy]

This is why I fly Boeing!!!

Probably more likely you never got offered a job flying airbii!!!
It's just a plane, if it was built in the USA you'd think it was great, it's not, get over it....

 

[WYOMINGPILOT]

More details!!!
Here are just SOME of the problems in Singapore last week aboard QF32.... I won't bother mentioning the engine explosion!.... oops... mentioned the engine explosion, sorry..... * massive fuel leak in the left mid fuel tank (the beast has 11 tanks, including in the horizontal stabiliser on the tail)* massive fuel leak in the left inner fuel tank* a hole on the flap canoe/fairing that you could fit your upper body through* the aft gallery in the fuel system failed, preventing many fuel transfer functions* fuel jettison had problems due to the previous problem above* bloody great hole in the upper wing surface* partial failure of leading edge slats* partial failure of speed brakes/ground spoilers* shrapnel damage to the flaps* TOTAL loss of all hydraulic fluid in the Green System (beast has 2 x 5,000 PSI systems, Green and Yellow)* manual extension of landing gear* loss of 1 generator and associated systems* loss of brake anti-skid system* unable to shutdown adjacent #1 engine using normal method after landing due to major damage to systems* unable to shutdown adjacent #1 engine using using the fire switch!!!!!!!! Therefore, no fire protection was available for that engine after the explosion in #2* ECAM warnings about major fuel imbalance because of fuel leaks on left side, that were UNABLE to be fixed with cross-feeding* fuel trapped in Trim Tank (in the tail). Therefore, possible major CofG out-of-balance condition for landing. Yikes!* and much more to come.......... Richard was in the left seat, FO in the right), SO in the 2nd obs seat (right rear, also with his own Radio Management Panel, so he probably did most of the coordination with the ground), Capt Dave Evans in the 1st obs seat (middle). He is a Check & Training Captain who was training Harry Wubbin to be one also. Harry was in the 3rd obs seat (left rear). All 5 guys were FLAT OUT, especially the FO who would have been processing complicated 'ECAM' messages and procedures that were seemingly never-ending!

 

[overseas boy]

wyoming we get you dont like airbus's! I remember another uncontained eng explosion it ended with a dramatic, very unfortunate crash with multiple loss of life. UA292.
The 380 kept flying. Even after multiple failures, most likely because several wiring looms had been cut after the enging debris penetrated the wing structure.
It's just a plane and we should be thankful there was not loss of life, not having a slanging match based on your slanted view of an aircraft you've never flown.

 

[WYOMINGPILOT]

MORE AIRBUS AND ROLLS ROYCE WOES.

(Reuters) - Engine maker Rolls-Royce (RR.L) has asked Airbus (EAD.PA) to return some Airbus A380 engines from production lines so it can use them to replace faulty ones on airplanes already in service.
The Airbus A380 -- the world's largest passenger aircraft with an average list price of about $350 million -- has been hit by safety concerns after a Rolls-Royce engine partly disintegrated mid-flight, forcing a fully laden Qantas (QAN.AX) plane to make an emergency landing in Singapore on Nov 4.
Rolls-Royce's move could be another blow to a much-delayed A380 programme as Airbus was scheduled to deliver over a dozen Rolls-Royce-powered A380s -- primarily to Singapore Airlines (SIAL.SI), Qantas and Lufthansa (LHAG.DE) by the end of next year.
"Until this problem is fully resolved I think the situation with the delivery of A380 to customers... will be in jeopardy," Standard & Poor's analyst Sukhor Yusof said

 

[WYOMINGPILOT]

wyoming we get you dont like airbus's! I remember another uncontained eng explosion it ended with a dramatic, very unfortunate crash with multiple loss of life. UA292.
The 380 kept flying. Even after multiple failures, most likely because several wiring looms had been cut after the enging debris penetrated the wing structure.
It's just a plane and we should be thankful there was not loss of life, not having a slanging match based on your slanted view of an aircraft you've never flown.

I Think you meant United 232. This crash was a DC-10 built by Mcdonnell-Douglas. The results of this crash caused aircraft/engine suppliers to redesign and ensure safety to try and avoid future uncontained engine failures.