want to get my license

[travalab]

okay, so i need some advice. i want to get my license. my dad has is
private pilot license but hasnt flown in years, growing up we would go
flying frequently so i know it something i want to do. what steps should
i take? me and my father are considering building a kit plane most likely
a vans rv8, or something similar. he strongly suggest that i continue
training until i obtain an ifr rating. so like i stated above, where should
i start? how long can i expect the process to take? i work a lot and i dont
expect to be in a plane more than once a week, maybe sometimes twice.

thanks in advance for the help.

 

[RJLoser]

okay, so i need some advice. i want to get my license. my dad has is
private pilot license but hasnt flown in years, growing up we would go
flying frequently so i know it something i want to do. what steps should
i take? me and my father are considering building a kit plane most likely
a vans rv8, or something similar. he strongly suggest that i continue
training until i obtain an ifr rating. so like i stated above, where should
i start? how long can i expect the process to take? i work a lot and i dont
expect to be in a plane more than once a week, maybe sometimes twice.

thanks in advance for the help.

Go to your local FBO. Take a good year to get your private and instrument. Fly once or twice a week. I would guess its gonna cost in the ballpark of 7,000. Have fun. Burn this web address.

 

[travalab]

Go to your local FBO. Take a good year to get your private and instrument. Fly once or twice a week. I would guess its gonna cost in the ballpark of 7,000. Have fun. Burn this web address.

7000 thats an encouraging number i was expecting much more. thanks for
the info. oh and is there a reason you dont like this site?

 

[RJLoser]

7000 thats an encouraging number i was expecting much more. thanks for
the info. oh and is there a reason you dont like this site?

I should have explained. I would guess 7,000 for a private or a private and an instrument if you have a plane for the private. Just kidding about the site. A lot of disgruntled pilots on here. Not enough movement recently. Good luck. I would start at an FBO. They will have all the info you will need. If you really want to crank out your ratings quickly I would suggest a place called ATP. They prepare you to pass a checkride. They don't give you in-depth things you learn taking your time.

 

[travalab]

I should have explained. I would guess 7,000 for a private or a private and an instrument if you have a plane for the private. Just kidding about the site. A lot of disgruntled pilots on here. Not enough movement recently. Good luck. I would start at an FBO. They will have all the info you will need. If you really want to crank out your ratings quickly I would suggest a place called ATP. They prepare you to pass a checkride. They don't give you in-depth things you learn taking your time.

ill look into ATP, thanks. so you are saying 7000 plus the cost of a rental?
also on that ATP site it says airlines need pilots? how much truth is
behind this? what does it take to become an airline pilot or a freight pilot?

 

[RJLoser]

ill look into ATP, thanks. so you are saying 7000 plus the cost of a rental?
also on that ATP site it says airlines need pilots? how much truth is
behind this? what does it take to become an airline pilot or a freight pilot?

7,000 or somewhere around there for a private in a rental. I'm guessing you will get plenty of responses about how to become an airline pilot. If not I'll check back. Bed time. On a short layover. Something you will learn all about if you choose this line of work.

 

[travalab]

7,000 or somewhere around there for a private in a rental. I'm guessing you will get plenty of responses about how to become an airline pilot. If not I'll check back. Bed time. On a short layover. Something you will learn all about if you choose this line of work.

i know all about layover spareboard hours of service etc, i work on the railroad now. im sure you guys have similar things you deal with.

 

[Lynxman]

Don't worry about ATP for ratings. Find a local small airport and pick a flight school. Don't listen to what ATP say's about airlines needing pilots it's a marketing gimmick to lure you in.

 

[J.Otto]

These days, I think its more like $10-12K going part 61.

Dont go through the effort of building an airplane just for training purposes. Like someone suggested, ALLATPS is a good place for a quick turn around, plus you'll earn some twin time. VERY important should you pursue flying as a career.

 

[brokeflyer]

VERY important should you pursue flying as a career.

Vote for dumbest reply in history.....

Dont ever threaten another member here like that again.



lol

 

[J.Otto]

Vote for dumbest reply in history.....

Dont ever threaten another member here like that again.



lol

Really, old man?

24K of Jet-A has your brain distilled.

without a little multi engine time, he'll be passed over. Ive seen CFIs with a couple thousand hours of single and few multi, unable to meet hiring minimums. Many aspring pilots go throguh time building programs for ME time as quesitonable SIC/PIC hood time. These programs cost a lot of extra money on top of all the single time they have and the time is very very questioanble. often, 3 people are logging MEL PIC.

By enrolling in a program like ATP, 90% of his flight time will be in twins. Without that first 100-200 hours, no one will look at you.

In the end he will save money by going through ATP.

 

[brokeflyer]

Really, old man?

24K of Jet-A has your brain distilled.

without a little multi engine time, he'll be passed over. Ive seen CFIs with a couple thousand hours of single and few multi, unable to meet hiring minimums. Many aspring pilots go throguh time building programs for ME time as quesitonable SIC/PIC hood time. These programs cost a lot of extra money on top of all the single time they have and the time is very very questioanble. often, 3 people are logging MEL PIC.

By enrolling in a program like ATP, 90% of his flight time will be in twins. Without that first 100-200 hours, no one will look at you.

In the end he will save money by going through ATP.

lighten up kid.....obvioulsy it was a joke.

do this guy a favor and tell him stop after the instrument rating.

 

[no1pilot2000]

To get your ratings, avoid pilot mills like ATP and other similal "fast track" flight schools. When I considered becoming a professional pilot at one time, I have known instructors who attended these "fast track" pilot schools and was told not to attend them. I called ATP. When I spoke to an admissions rep. from the school, I felt like I was talking to a used car salesman. They will reallty "hype-up" the airline business.

The best thing to do is to visit a few flight schools in your area that offer the training you desire and use that information to make the right decision for YOU and NOT the flight school. Fly as often as you can within your budget. Most importantly, have fun and fly safe!

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Get a freelance instructor or one who does it for a living. One who has many thousands of hours of dual given and loves what they do. You'll find many, many young instructors who fast-tracked and can't even make a proper crosswind landing themselves. This is CRUCIAL advice. I hope you take it because whatever you learn doing your PPL will follow you around the rest of your flying days. I've flown with many fast-track pilots and most never really seemed to "get it" because as posted before were just trained to pass the ride.

 

[J.Otto]

lighten up kid.....obvioulsy it was a joke.

do this guy a favor and tell him stop after the instrument rating.

sorry, wasnt sure what you meant. I usually respect and agree with your opinions on most matters. :beer:

anyway...

Hey kid (OP), broke is right on about that!!!

Fly for fun.


BTW, the instrument rating is the most rewarding to earn. I hope the OP at a minimum achieves it. If you never fly IFR, it'll make you a much better (knowledge and skill wise) VFR pilot....

 

[no1pilot2000]

A word of caution. If you visit a flight school and they might tell you to put down a large amount of money to get a discount (usually thousnds of dollars) or "training pacakges" for your private pilot or instrument rating. The first flight school I attended (before it went out of business) had the same program. I knew other students who put that money into a training package to get that discount. I knew some students who went to the same school and they lost that money when the school ceased to exist.

 

[ualdriver]

ill look into ATP, thanks. so you are saying 7000 plus the cost of a rental?
also on that ATP site it says airlines need pilots? how much truth is
behind this? what does it take to become an airline pilot or a freight pilot?

www.thetruthabouttheprofession.weebly.com

That should answer the questions you ask in your last 3 queries.

 

[J.Otto]

A word of caution. If you visit a flight school and they might tell you to put down a large amount of money to get a discount (usually thousnds of dollars) or "training pacakges" for your private pilot or instrument rating. The first flight school I attended (before it went out of business) had the same program. I knew other students who put that money into a training package to get that discount. I knew some students who went to the same school and they lost that money when the school ceased to exist.

Very good point. Ive seen flight schools close without notice. Buisiness as usual one day...shuttered the next moring with the planes wheels booted by the airport. This happens fairly often!

If you do pay for block time, do so in small increments that you can fly within a week or two. Sometimes the small discount isnt even worth the loss of a lot of money.

 

[Erlanger]

Do yourself a favor kid and get a license in the medical field. Or even being a plumber is better than this business. You'll make more money and set your own hours. You'll thank me later.

 

[no1pilot2000]

You have received a lot of information here about flying and getting your certications. Look around at a few different flight schools, talk to a flight instructor at each school about your goals and ask them for their opinion. Good luck in your aviation pursuits.