Mesa Air Group must shrink to survive

[SPDBRD747400]

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...0100627biz-mesa-air-group-bankruptcy0627.html

 

[CX880]

Mesa sucks

 

[dooork]

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...0100627biz-mesa-air-group-bankruptcy0627.html

Idiot.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

Idiot.

Really why, have issues do you?

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Idiot.

What, U mad?

 

[go!ng for broke]

idiot.

ba da u

 

[JustaNumber]

I thought it was a well-written, informative article. And these are the responses? Are some of you even old enough to fly an airplane?

 

[Full of LUV]

Wow... How the cocky have fallen.....

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...0100627biz-mesa-air-group-bankruptcy0627.html

I wish I could remember the screen name of the Mesa Captain who told me back in 2001 that the majors deserved to furlough because the pilots got too greedy and asked for too much pay. His contention is Mesa would always rule for his career because they were realistic on their salary demands.
Funny you don't read those posts anymore..... Yes the regionals were successful in pulling down the major's pay which effectively cuts out the spread of what it costs to run a 737 or 320 vs a 99 seat regional jet.
Also, the Mesa pilots always thought that scope would have completely caved by now and they would be flying 320's at bargain prices for everyone.......
My how karma's a bitttttch!

 

[dowhite2]

"Also, the Mesa pilots always thought that scope would have completely caved by now and they would be flying 320's at bargain prices for everyone.......
My how karma's a bitttttch!"

Most mesa pilots have not and did not think that way. The CRJ900s were recapured flying from the non-union Freedom which was started up as an internal whipsaw against Mesa pilots during contract negotiations. The Freedom flying was brought under Mesa and ALPA under the terms of the new contract, the price of this scope was the infamous Mesa CBA. Shortly thereafter there was a plan to fly 737-200s under codeshare with UA under Mesa's own banner. Mesa pilots put a stop to that and refused the payrates offered by mgt. Please don't paint with such a broad brush.

 

[brokedash]

Anyone paying attention to the docket will note that several big time players in Mesa's BK have filed massive bills for services rendered in the last 24 hours.

 

[brad767]

Anyone know how many 50 seaters mesa currently has with airways? And their bases?

 

[greyskyracer]

Anyone know how many 50 seaters mesa currently has with airways? And their bases?

not sure how many, but they are all based in PHX.

 

[brad767]

thanks

 

[brokedash]

not sure how many, but they are all based in PHX.

That would leave 8 200s operating for US

 

[hou757]

That would leave 8 200s operating for US

Plus 8 dash correct?

 

[DrewBlows]

Anyone paying attention to the docket will note that several big time players in Mesa's BK have filed massive bills for services rendered in the last 24 hours.

Care to elaborate for those of us not "paying attention to the docket?"

 

[say again]

Shortly thereafter there was a plan to fly 737-200s under codeshare with UA under Mesa's own banner. Mesa pilots put a stop to that and refused the payrates offered by mgt. Please don't paint with such a broad brush.

Yet they approved of the payrates they have to this day.

 

[dooork]

Yet they approved of the pay rates they have to this day.

We had bigger battles than pay rates

 

[say again]

We had bigger battles than pay rates

As in?

 

[brokedash]

Care to elaborate for those of us not "paying attention to the docket?"

Basically lawyers and financial counsel to the debtors (MAG) have all posted huge bills and as part of BK procedures are asking the court premisson to be paid.

 

[ex j-41]

Basically lawyers and financial counsel to the debtors (MAG) have all posted huge bills and as part of BK procedures are asking the court premisson to be paid.

...before chapter 7 and noone gets anything.

 

[sniper]

As in?

Freedom Airlines

Ask Trans States about Gojet, alter ego low life scum outfit

 

[sniper]

...before chapter 7 and noone gets anything.

Ch 7? wrong. With 70 million cash and out of BK Mesa will be shoping.

 

[ex j-41]

What's shoping mean?

 

[say again]

Freedom Airlines

Ask Trans States about Gojet, alter ego low life scum outfit

Gotcha, well aware of both.

 

[brokedash]

Ch 7? wrong. With 70 million cash and out of BK Mesa will be shoping.

Remember, MAG is going to half to pay the professionals representing there interest, those fees will not be debatable. Mesa will owe at least a couple mil in claims payments for secured claims and though it won't suprise me to see them try to object paying all un-secured claims, they won't get all of them off the books. Oh, they are losing that 20 mil a month from Delta too and though they restructured leases, I'm sure there still paying on most of those returned birds. I expect that hefty 70 mil to drop and not for MAG to come close to that figure for the forseeable future.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

What's shoping mean?

Duh! It's only the best Czech Rap song ever!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-tHANYp6zw

 

[atlcrashpad]

mesa sux!

 

[paddlehigh]

8 more recalls at PSA. Thats 24 recalls in the last couple of months. Seems a little strange to recall so many going into the fall. Maybe they think mesa is going to tank.

 

[sniper]

8 more recalls at PSA. Thats 24 recalls in the last couple of months. Seems a little strange to recall so many going into the fall. Maybe they think mesa is going to tank.

MESA will take over PSA