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http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/01/airtran_to_begin_flights_out_o.html

AirTran to begin flights out of Grand Rapids, airfare price competition expected
By Kyla King The Grand Rapids Press
January 27, 2010, 5:44PM
AP File Photo
AirTran will offer flights to Baltimore and Orlando out of Gerald R. Ford International Airport.
GRAND RAPIDS -- Discount airline AirTran Airways will begin air service from Gerald R. Ford International Airport in May, with two flights a day to Baltimore and one to Orlando.
The official announcement from the Orlando-based airline will come at 2 p.m. Thursday when executives fly in on an AirTran Jet to the Amway Hangar at the Grand Rapids airport.
The news follows the launching of a new group today -- Regional Air Alliance of West Michigan -- devoted to attracting low-cost air service to Grand Rapids.
Group leader and Grand Rapids businessman Dick DeVos confirmed the news in an interview with The Press today saying his group got involved after a "prominent" West Michigan resident who had a "personal relationship" with AirTran executives approached them about moving service into Grand Rapids.
DeVos would not name the individual, but said that initial contact jump started talks.
"The door opened a crack and we kicked our way in," DeVos said.
DeVos said AirTran has considered Grand Rapids before, but were concerned about being able to fill airplanes in this market.
"What they had not seen was a regional perspective and we gave them some assurance (that business leaders were willing to help them be successful," DeVos said.
Airport Director Jim Koslosky said airport leaders had been trying to lure AirTran for years.
"They were always nervous that the market in Grand Rapids would not support it," Koslosky said.

Koslosky said airport officials hope to use AirTran's entrance into the market as a way to get the seven long-time "legacy" airlines that operate out of Grand Rapids to lower their fares. Currently, the U.S. Department of Transportation ranks commercial air fares in Grand Rapids among the top five most expensive.
"Now we can get some respect from our incumbent carriers," Koslosky said. "We've been abused by the legacy carriers."
AirTran currently operates out of airports in Detroit and Flint.
Today, parent company AirTran Holdings Inc. released a report show it posted a profit of $17.1 million, or 11 cents a share, for the final quarter of 2009. That's compared to a loss of $121.6 million, or $1.03 a share, in the same period of 2008.
Revenue rose 1.5 percent to $598.4 million from $589.4 million.
For the year, AirTran's profit of $134.7 million was a record. That was equivalent to 95 cents a share, compared to a loss of $266.3 million, or $2.44 a share, for 2008. Revenue fell to $2.34 billion from $2.55 billion in 2008. Larger rivals like Delta Air Lines and American Airlines lost money in 2009. AirTran, based in Orlando, Fla., has low costs that allow it to cut ticket prices and still make money. It ended 2009 with $543 million in unrestricted cash on hand.
 
Grand Rapids really needs the competition but I question their choice of cities to begin service. Real competition would have been service to ATL or the NY airpots.
 
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/01/airtran_to_begin_flights_out_o.html

AirTran to begin flights out of Grand Rapids, airfare price competition expected
By Kyla King The Grand Rapids Press
January 27, 2010, 5:44PM
AP File Photo
AirTran will offer flights to Baltimore and Orlando out of Gerald R. Ford International Airport.
GRAND RAPIDS -- Discount airline AirTran Airways will begin air service from Gerald R. Ford International Airport in May, with two flights a day to Baltimore and one to Orlando.
The official announcement from the Orlando-based airline will come at 2 p.m. Thursday when executives fly in on an AirTran Jet to the Amway Hangar at the Grand Rapids airport.
The news follows the launching of a new group today -- Regional Air Alliance of West Michigan -- devoted to attracting low-cost air service to Grand Rapids.
Group leader and Grand Rapids businessman Dick DeVos confirmed the news in an interview with The Press today saying his group got involved after a "prominent" West Michigan resident who had a "personal relationship" with AirTran executives approached them about moving service into Grand Rapids.
DeVos would not name the individual, but said that initial contact jump started talks.
"The door opened a crack and we kicked our way in," DeVos said.
DeVos said AirTran has considered Grand Rapids before, but were concerned about being able to fill airplanes in this market.
"What they had not seen was a regional perspective and we gave them some assurance (that business leaders were willing to help them be successful," DeVos said.
Airport Director Jim Koslosky said airport leaders had been trying to lure AirTran for years.
"They were always nervous that the market in Grand Rapids would not support it," Koslosky said.

Koslosky said airport officials hope to use AirTran's entrance into the market as a way to get the seven long-time "legacy" airlines that operate out of Grand Rapids to lower their fares. Currently, the U.S. Department of Transportation ranks commercial air fares in Grand Rapids among the top five most expensive.
"Now we can get some respect from our incumbent carriers," Koslosky said. "We've been abused by the legacy carriers."
AirTran currently operates out of airports in Detroit and Flint.
Today, parent company AirTran Holdings Inc. released a report show it posted a profit of $17.1 million, or 11 cents a share, for the final quarter of 2009. That's compared to a loss of $121.6 million, or $1.03 a share, in the same period of 2008.
Revenue rose 1.5 percent to $598.4 million from $589.4 million.
For the year, AirTran's profit of $134.7 million was a record. That was equivalent to 95 cents a share, compared to a loss of $266.3 million, or $2.44 a share, for 2008. Revenue fell to $2.34 billion from $2.55 billion in 2008. Larger rivals like Delta Air Lines and American Airlines lost money in 2009. AirTran, based in Orlando, Fla., has low costs that allow it to cut ticket prices and still make money. It ended 2009 with $543 million in unrestricted cash on hand.

Really not new as I'm pretty sure they flew to GRR as Value Jet.
 
It's probably because Allegiant flies there too. Before this, it was Des Moines, IA... another Allegiant city pairing to Orlando-- now these two airlines are locked in some sort battle; Allegiant announced that due to this kind of competiveness, they'll be moving most of their operations from Sanford to OIA.... Fights on!
 
Grand Rapids really needs the competition but I question their choice of cities to begin service. Real competition would have been service to ATL or the NY airpots.

I'm sure they considered that before deciding, but thanks anyway.

BTW, what's an "airpot"?
 
Theirs' only one "l" in misspelled, right? Or is their too?

You know it's late and I normally do not spend time on this site. Much friendlier folks on the other site. Given that it would be "there's and two". Spelling is usually one of my better skills but after several long days including a day in Mexico I must be suffering from a margarita brain freeze!

Cheers to all from a grumpy old pilot...
 
2EASY- Don't stress over it, we just like to kid around a little. Well, got to go now, meeting someone at the airpot.

Cheers! CS
 
3-4 50 seat rj's a day between atl and grr.....always full with paying pax and non-revs bumped...me being one of them. Someone please put an 88 back on this. This city used to have UAL 727's, 737's, and A-320's all day long to ORD. ATL was 88's as well. Hey Airtran, if DAL won't do it please add some service to ATL. I need a ride!!!

Sounds like Airtran is going toe to toe with Allegiant in Orlando.
 
More like Airtrans version of marketing is just copy what Allegiant is doing.
True except Airtran will be offering connections to SJU, Nassau, Aruba, Key West, and Montego Bay out of MCO. Not to mention the 10-15 connection possibilities out of BWI.

Allegiant is point to point. Airtran treats MKE, BWI, ATL, and to a smaller degree MCO as hubs.
 
2EASY, just poking a little grammatical fun. Misspelling is kronic on this forum!
 
More like Airtrans version of marketing is just copy what Allegiant is doing.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. JetBlue for awhile was copying every move we made (and then expanding on it). I never thought I would be going back to places like CRW, DSM, AVL or GRR. Thank you Allegiant for doing the market research for us.
 
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