Unemployment rate drops! -When will hiring start?

[JT12345]

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-12-04-unemployment-november_N.htm?csp=34

http://www.flightattendantcareer.com/hiring_info.htm

Rumors around Airtran were January, but that was Skywest, lol. Now there is talk about Pilot hiring in April.

Anyone else have expected Pilot hiring info at their Major Airline?

 

[LearLove]

airlines - first to tank, last to recover

 

[tdwnds1]

Looks like some business is coming back with last months figures, but there are A LOT of furloughees to call back before hiring starts.

Just ask the United folks.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Looks like great news! Where can I sign up for one of Kit Darby's seminars? I have a lot of friends at Song. I need to get my application ready!

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Looks like great news! Where can I sign up for one of Kit Darby's seminars? I have a lot of friends at Song. I need to get my application ready!

Excellent. With all your flight time and experience you're perfect for throwing bags and servicing lavs!
And who are you kidding, you have NO friends!:laugh:

 

[Outta Here]

What you actually believe what USA today says, all it is another tabloid newspaper. Take what they report the unemployment rate is 10 percent and multiply it times 2. Maybe people are spending money but the jobs are still going away.

 

[FR8mastr]

Does everyone realize that someone who's unemployment runs out, is officially no longer unemployed?

Not to mention the seasonal help that many large corporations hire.

Our manufacturing base has been mostly shipped over seas, the tech jobs are following. Not everyone can work at mega mart hocking made in China stuff.

Sure wall street will fluctuate, making the poor CEO's very happy, but the tax base... IE, us, has been and continues to be devastated.

The chickens are coming home to roost. Welcome to the new world order.

 

[xrated]

Does everyone realize that someone who's unemployment runs out, is officially no longer unemployed?

Good point, I've heard the same.

 

[Colonel Savage]

Watch what employment data does after the holidays. Might not be good news.

 

[Dan Roman]

Does everyone realize that someone who's unemployment runs out, is officially no longer unemployed?

Not to mention the seasonal help that many large corporations hire.

Our manufacturing base has been mostly shipped over seas, the tech jobs are following. Not everyone can work at mega mart hocking made in China stuff.

Sure wall street will fluctuate, making the poor CEO's very happy, but the tax base... IE, us, has been and continues to be devastated.

The chickens are coming home to roost. Welcome to the new world order.

George Bush's chickens have been coming home to roost for awhile alright.
I'm not an economist and no one on here is. I'm guessing a lot of people get their info from cable TV and talk radio. I don't care if you are on the right or left, most of public opinion is as a result of people listening to some pundit that supports their preconceived notions. Unfortunately, many of those people make crap up, it's quite possible Beck is the biggest liar of them all and yet he has a huge audience and best sellers.
As far as Government spending goes, the only thing I know is:
1) It is what kept the current crisis from being worse than it already is according to economists way more qualified to make that call than any cable TV or radio pundit.
2)The reason this economy didn't crash as bad as 1929 is because the mistake we made in 1929 was when the economy retracted, the Government cut back on spending, making matters much worse according to Kenesian economics.
3) What a joke it is when people call Obama a socialist. It may be a very emotional tag to put out there, but our Government policies are hardly socilalist. We are still a great country, we will get through this and prosper and at some point the airlines will be hiring like crazy. Airline hiring has always been a very cyclical deal.

 

[FR8mastr]

That all sounds great, you love Obama and thats great too.

However, this issue is not left or right, you said that also, but one can infer by the rhetoric, you are definitely on the left side of issues, again great but you are not seeing the real story.

Clinton gave China most favored nation trade status
Congress went right along with it.
Clinton pushed hard for NAFTA
Congress went right along with it.
Bush continued with the NWO agenda shipping our jobs out all in the name of a "Global economy"
Congress went right along with it.
Bush enhanced NAFTA
Congress went right along with it.
Bush brought us the "patriot act"
Congress went right along with it.
Obama gets into office spends more money than ever
Congress went right along with it
Patriot act still here, so much for liberal outrage.
Do you see a pattern yet? There is much more but space is short.
The only ones this program is working for is Global bankers. Ask yourself why they would do this, and look up the history follow the money and you will find the answers.
Ever ask yourself how we have a Federal Reserve? not in the constition, hell its not even the government.
The left, Right argument is just a distraction and has been for 30 plus years. Follow the Money!!!!

 

[JT12345]

That all sounds great, you love Obama and thats great too.

However, this issue is not left or right, you said that also, but one can infer by the rhetoric, you are definitely on the left side of issues, again great but you are not seeing the real story.

Clinton gave China most favored nation trade status
Congress went right along with it.
Clinton pushed hard for NAFTA
Congress went right along with it.
Bush continued with the NWO agenda shipping our jobs out all in the name of a "Global economy"
Congress went right along with it.
Bush enhanced NAFTA
Congress went right along with it.
Bush brought us the "patriot act"
Congress went right along with it.
Obama gets into office spends more money than ever
Congress went right along with it
Patriot act still here, so much for liberal outrage.
Do you see a pattern yet? There is much more but space is short.
The only ones this program is working for is Global bankers. Ask yourself why they would do this, and look up the history follow the money and you will find the answers.
Ever ask yourself how we have a Federal Reserve? not in the constition, hell its not even the government.
The left, Right argument is just a distraction and has been for 30 plus years. Follow the Money!!!!

So what you are saying is that:

Goldmen Sachs... The Freemasons... and The Skulls..., and Narcissitic CEOs...

...are in charge of the country.

I could have told you that!

 

[Dan Roman]

That all sounds great, you love Obama and thats great too.

However, this issue is not left or right, you said that also, but one can infer by the rhetoric, you are definitely on the left side of issues, again great but you are not seeing the real story.

Clinton gave China most favored nation trade status
Congress went right along with it.
Clinton pushed hard for NAFTA
Congress went right along with it.
Bush continued with the NWO agenda shipping our jobs out all in the name of a "Global economy"
Congress went right along with it.
Bush enhanced NAFTA
Congress went right along with it.
Bush brought us the "patriot act"
Congress went right along with it.
Obama gets into office spends more money than ever
Congress went right along with it
Patriot act still here, so much for liberal outrage.
Do you see a pattern yet? There is much more but space is short.
The only ones this program is working for is Global bankers. Ask yourself why they would do this, and look up the history follow the money and you will find the answers.
Ever ask yourself how we have a Federal Reserve? not in the constition, hell its not even the government.
The left, Right argument is just a distraction and has been for 30 plus years. Follow the Money!!!!

Actually, I would say I am center leaning towards the left. Keep in mind most of the advances our country has made has been a result of "liberal" ideas that are now considered mainstream even though they were very liberal in their time. That said, I think there are ideas from the right that are very valid.
Little sound bites mean nothing, the issues we are talking about are incredibly complex and, unfortunately have been dumbed down to Glen Beck type statements that are meant to instill emotional, rather than rational responses.

 

[Dan Roman]

So what you are saying is that:

Goldmen Sachs... The Freemasons... and The Skulls..., and Narcissitic CEOs...

...are in charge of the country.

I could have told you that!

Good one!
Simply put, from my perspective, our country has gone to far towards making a few people wealthy at the expense of many. We have all paid a huge price for the so called trickle down economics theory that just didn't trickle down to most.

 

[greed]

You guys are thinking too much, I outsourced my ability to think to India!

 

[dragontamer]

From Dan Roman

"Actually, I would say I am center leaning towards the left. Keep in mind most of the advances our country has made has been a result of "liberal" ideas that are now considered mainstream even though they were very liberal in their time. That said, I think there are ideas from the right that are very valid.

Little sound bites mean nothing, the issues we are talking about are incredibly complex and, unfortunately have been dumbed down to Glen Beck type statements that are meant to instill emotional, rather than rational responses."


Dan, You are a fool. Liberal ideas did not make this country great. Hard working folks and entrepeneurs looking to "themselves" and their small communities rather than Washington DC made this country great. The more we look to big Government to "take care of us" and "make things right" the weaker we are. The spending and the arrogance of Washington DC is completely out of control right now and dangerous. Many Americans (you not included, comrade) are waking up and realizing this. Glenn Beck is right on many things. I do not support the new Utopia and am out there making my voice heard.

 

[Chief Pilot]

Does everyone realize that someone who's unemployment runs out, is officially no longer unemployed?

Not to mention the seasonal help that many large corporations hire.

Our manufacturing base has been mostly shipped over seas, the tech jobs are following. Not everyone can work at mega mart hocking made in China stuff.

Sure wall street will fluctuate, making the poor CEO's very happy, but the tax base... IE, us, has been and continues to be devastated.

The chickens are coming home to roost. Welcome to the new world order.

Good points. Don't forget the state jobs with mandatory furlough days and the folks who have been forced from full-time to part-time employment. This data does not get reflected when unemployment stats come out. The reality is that the economy is a long way from major recovery. I can't see any meaningful hiring at the airlines (especially the majors) for quite some time.

 

[Dan Roman]

From Dan Roman

"Actually, I would say I am center leaning towards the left. Keep in mind most of the advances our country has made has been a result of "liberal" ideas that are now considered mainstream even though they were very liberal in their time. That said, I think there are ideas from the right that are very valid.

Little sound bites mean nothing, the issues we are talking about are incredibly complex and, unfortunately have been dumbed down to Glen Beck type statements that are meant to instill emotional, rather than rational responses."


Dan, You are a fool. Liberal ideas did not make this country great. Hard working folks and entrepeneurs looking to "themselves" and their small communities rather than Washington DC made this country great. The more we look to big Government to "take care of us" and "make things right" the weaker we are. The spending and the arrogance of Washington DC is completely out of control right now and dangerous. Many Americans (you not included, comrade) are waking up and realizing this. Glenn Beck is right on many things. I do not support the new Utopia and am out there making my voice heard.

Why is it the Glen Beck disciples seem to think if they can call someone a name it makes them more right. Whatever happened to people looking at different points of views rationally and coming up with strong middle ground that makes sense to most?

 

[pilotyip]

Something is going on out there, I have pilots dropping off my interview schedule because of interviews coming in from other places. I have a guy a Comair furloughee, who is thinking of dropping out of DA-20 GS ($34K/yr job), to take a job at CLE (F/O on a -8 for $18K) strange business

 

[pilotyip]

No reality

From Dan Roman

"Dan, You are a fool. Liberal ideas did not make this country great. Hard working folks and entrepeneurs looking to "themselves" and their small communities rather than Washington DC made this country great. The more we look to big Government to "take care of us" and "make things right" the weaker we are. The spending and the arrogance of Washington DC is completely out of control right now and dangerous. Many Americans (you not included, comrade) are waking up and realizing this. Glenn Beck is right on many things. I do not support the new Utopia and am out there making my voice heard.

I see you are new to FI. Welcome aboard, if you ever come through Belleville by KYIP the beer is on me at the "Wedge". Let me be one of the first to introduce the FI rules. On FI name calling, slamming, and personal attacks are always welcome, but you must never deal in reality. Many pilots have trobule dealing with the reality of the market place. Such as in the end it is not management or unions that determine salaries and working conditions, but the consumer who buys the ticket. Or that a college degree has anything to do with flying an airplane. Happy posting, but stay away from reality, it does not fit here