Boeing vs Airbus vs McD accident statistics

[GogglesPisano]

The AF thread led me to a little research. It appears Boeings come out slightly ahead overall. A330/340data is missing.

Safety ranking:

1) Saab340
2) MD80
3) 767
4) 757
5) 737
6) 727
7) A320 series
8) F100
9) Brasilia
10) DC9
11) BAe 146
12) L1011
13) A300
14) A310
15) B747
16) DC10
17) F28
18) Brandeirante
19) MD11 (I can vouch for that POS)
20) Concorde

Airlines are also ranked.

http://www.airdisaster.com/statistics/

Of course, statistics can be misleading. Highly-trained First World pilots vs politically-connected Third World pilots; Flying in Africa vs the US or Europe, all factors.

 

[MD11Drvr]

Dang! No love the MD-11 Goggles, Good machine in the right hands. But I ahve to agree not exactly user friendly.....

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

What about that POS the CRJ?

How are those numbers derived?

 

[~~~^~~~]

One flaw in his chart is that he does not treat the DC9 as a type, but splits it with its derivative MD80.

The DC9 is no where near as "safe" as a 757 or 767, but you'd never know that from his chart.

Dare I say it, after the DC8, Douglas built jets in Long Beach and did their engineering was done via service difficulty reports and crash investigations. I'm not sure why repeated failures of the ground lift dumper actuation system, hydraulics, and marginal control in some parts of its flight envelope are tolerated. I now mistrust any airplane where the green band for take off pitch trim limitations is set via a slide rule.

Type IV was a big deal on many airplanes, yet the only airplane that I've seen a real effect on when that goo gums up the elevator servo tabs is the MD80, where the book never even mentions it.... and why did a jet with a hugely revised engine not get EEC's?

~ Douglas rant almost over ~

As far as the DC9 goes, many of those losses were due to not having EGPWS, the 767 fleet stats reflect terrorist acts, and sampling error for the smaller carriers ... interesting statistics, but maybe not as informative as someone might think on first blush.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Dang! No love the MD-11 Goggles, Good machine in the right hands. But I ahve to agree not exactly user friendly.....

I admit I was a little harsh. The flight deck is dark, drab and dreary. The FMS is slow. It handles like a garbage truck half full of water. Only 200 copies were made and every cockpit is different.

On the other hand, it is powerful and you can always get down if you're high. And it's built like a tank.

 

[Andy Neill]

I found it amusing in light of the "4-engine Boing or I ain't going" remark made on another AF thread. Here it shows the 747 as being the worst of the original Boeing products and even worse than the Airbi.

 

[Redmeat]

I found it amusing in light of the "4-engine Boing or I ain't going" remark made on another AF thread. Here it shows the 747 as being the worst of the original Boeing products and even worse than the Airbi.

This and the AF accident reminds me of the NW 747 that had the lower rudder do a hardover in cruise and stayed there. The crew had to use asymmetrical thrust to stay lined up on approach.

The investigation found that the loads of the hardover had twisted the entire vertical stabilizer.

That's what I like about aluminum...it bends...ALOT...before it breaks.

I'm not a mechanical engineer, nor am I a chemist...but I'm pretty sure the carbon fiber composite tail on an Airbus wouldn't 'twist' given the same scenario. The AA A300 in 2001 comes to mind...

 

[machaf]

Scarebus baby

 

[pdub20s]

I found it amusing in light of the "4-engine Boing or I ain't going" remark made on another AF thread. Here it shows the 747 as being the worst of the original Boeing products and even worse than the Airbi.

Thats because Kalitta keeps crashing them....

 

[MD11Drvr]

I admit I was a little harsh. The flight deck is dark, drab and dreary. The FMS is slow. It handles like a garbage truck half full of water. Only 200 copies were made and every cockpit is different.

On the other hand, it is powerful and you can always get down if you're high. And it's built like a tank.

Hey Goggles I think its fair to say though everything else you fly after the MD-11 will be easy.