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HighSpeedClimb said:
Shamu, can you give us a hint of what the pay will be, since you seem to be employed there?
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Well, I guess people shouldn't expect GV pay to fly a Phenom 100... I presume, but do not know any details, that pay would equate to CJ1 or Premier Jet Part 135 pay for the SoCal area - right? At least initially. The Phenom is roughly the same size as a Premier Jet (but not as fast).

Does anyone know what a Part 135 CJ1/Premier Jet/Lear PIC and SIC make in the SoCal area? Are we talking $65K to start for Captain and $40K for FO? It doesn't help that there are tons of furloughed pilots available...

Not sure about the schedule but would also like to know that when anyone gets details.
 
Anyone have details (or estimates) on starting pay (PIC and SIC) on the Phenom and the schedule? What about other domiciles and how soon they could open?

Please share when those details become available...
 
Saturday morning. I was told I would be getting an email with the exact time but I have not received it yet.

I will be going to the get together Friday night assuming it's still on, the guy who called me about the interview didn't mention it.
 
No idea! If you look at the website and other articles their planning on 12 a/c by the end of 2009. Then two per month there after. Two pilot crews and never single pilot. 12x2 is 24, and depending on if they'll have a schedule or not I'll guess for now that the number would be 2.5 pilots per a/c. Just a guess.

I'm sure there will be more info available in the next few weeks.

Tex
 
Got an interview also on the 2nd. Also wondering why no one knows what the pay will be. I am assuming VLJ= low money. I may be wrong though.
 
I am curious to know if most of you that are applying to jetsuite already have a job and if you are willing to leave your job in this down economy for a startup?

I am not saying its good or bad, but just curious. I am not interested in this company but i think it has a bright future and can fill a niche in business travel.
 
Lampshade said:
$400 a day 14 day min a month.
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Hmmmm. That is probably similar to what a CJ1/2 or Premier Jet PIC makes flying 135 out of SoCal. It ain't Gulfstream or Challenger pay but then again you aren't flying a big bizjet long distances. Not too surprising if that's the case.

Hopefully the minimum 14 day schedule allows for OK QOL. I imagine pilots could ultimately fly multiple sectors per day around the West Coast once things actually ramp up (assuming the economy recovers) - probably competing with Avantair and some of the cheaper Citation and King Air 135 operators. Should be interesting to hear more details as they become available this weekend...
 
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I was told the same $400/day, 14 days on, with a bonus for any work over 16 days.

Realistically you are looking at a range of $68k to a max of $120K if you flew every available minute.

Single pilot ops for owners and ferry flights, two pilots for charter work.


I am passing for now, my current job pays much more than they can offer.
Best of luck guys, it looks promising. I think they have a good business plan and I wish them success.
 
I decided to pass on interview today as well. I have tried repeatedly to get more info on the job such as compensation, benefits, schedule from JetSuite. Just the basics and not ground breaking stuff.

What information I did get was very vague and the rest treated like a state secret. I definitely didn't feel comfortable providing all my documents in advance to them at their request for a possible background check that might alert my current employer.

Job looks promising however I think in this economy I'm better off staying with my stable job for now. At least until such time as JetSuite decides to be more upfront with providing more info about the job. Who interviews for a job without doing due diligence first??

Good luck to all :-)
 
Just curious. How many airplanes does Jetsuite expect to have operating by the end of 09? How soon will the first Phenom be on the line?

Lastly, what about training slots? It is a brand new aircraft type. Would they train in the airplane or do they have access to sims yet?
 
On Your Six said:
Just curious. How many airplanes does Jetsuite expect to have operating by the end of 09? How soon will the first Phenom be on the line?

Lastly, what about training slots? It is a brand new aircraft type. Would they train in the airplane or do they have access to sims yet?
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The sim still isn't certified. All training is done in the plane either at AFW or in Brazil. Embraer has a Phenom, instructors and MX crew with the plane at AFW, and they rotate on cycles. Checkrides are with the FAA (only 2 or 3 examiners). If the company can get their own Check Airmen then that's a different story. ;)
 
bartttman said:
I decided to pass on interview today as well. I have tried repeatedly to get more info on the job such as compensation, benefits, schedule from JetSuite. Just the basics and not ground breaking stuff.

What information I did get was very vague and the rest treated like a state secret. I definitely didn't feel comfortable providing all my documents in advance to them at their request for a possible background check that might alert my current employer.

Job looks promising however I think in this economy I'm better off staying with my stable job for now. At least until such time as JetSuite decides to be more upfront with providing more info about the job. Who interviews for a job without doing due diligence first??

Good luck to all :-)
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Bartttman,

Perhaps they were looking for people who were actually committed to the potential position vs. just window-shoppers? If you are willing to follow all of those onerous steps then you must be really interested... Just speculating.

I must say that the model is very interesting and the airplane looks like it would be fun to fly around the West Coast. A recovering economy certainly would improve their prospects - let's hope it starts soon.

Good luck to all!
 
HighSpeedClimb said:
I hope to get some info too..If nobody gives any I'll treat it like a JetBlue interview. I'm hoping to at least get more details of the actual job package though.
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Please share when you get more information. Also, do we know if they plan to hire more later in the year? I presume they would with growth if Jetsuite starts to do well in the market.
 
Any more details?

So, now that the first round of interviews for initial hires is finished, anyone care to share some more details about:
  • starting pay (Capt and FO)
  • schedule (week on/week off or 14 days straight or alternate schedule)
  • opening of additional domiciles beyond LGB including likely timing, etc.
Any additional details to share? Not much info out there...

PMs are welcome if necessary. Good luck to all!
 
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johnsonrod said:
Bartttman,

Perhaps they were looking for people who were actually committed to the potential position vs. just window-shoppers? If you are willing to follow all of those onerous steps then you must be really interested... Just speculating.

I must say that the model is very interesting and the airplane looks like it would be fun to fly around the West Coast. A recovering economy certainly would improve their prospects - let's hope it starts soon.

Good luck to all!
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Maybe you should leave the speculation to the experts then. An interview is a two way street and it's not a crime to learn as much about a company as you can. Especially when you have family to consider.

Hopefully you aren't one of those guys who is just happy to have a flying job. How can anyone be committed to a potential position without information? Sounds like a naive statement.

Based upon the lack of information I decided to pass on the interview. Not a personal judgement against JS. Anyhow, I was just trying to share what I knew about JS with the rest of those seeking information.

Good luck.
 
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The info earlier in this thread addressed pay, schedule, and domiciles to the extent that any of us know at this point.

The interview process was prompt, professional, and friendly. I think it could be a great opportunity. Just know that in this environment they get the pick of the litter.
 
How soon before people start hearing interview results? I hear the calibre of candidates was very high.

Also, what is the projected start-up date? Early summer?

Good luck to all!
 
Planned class was for 6 on June 1st. I did the meet and greet Friday eve and interviewed Saturday morning with 11 others. I believe 47 people interviewed Fri and Sat all together. Sounds like JetSuite will hire 30 pilots this year total. First base too open will be Long Beach then Las Vegas or SFO and Phx eventually(I think). 14 to 16 day bid per month at a rate of 400 per day. You can live where ever you want as long as your at base on your first day on.
I enjoyed the Meet and Greet and the interview seemed laid back as well. I haven't heard back from anyone yet. I thought the JetSuite Team was really a great group and I believe this company will be a success.
 
skysharke said:
Planned class was for 6 on June 1st. I did the meet and greet Friday eve and interviewed Saturday morning with 11 others. I believe 47 people interviewed Fri and Sat all together. Sounds like JetSuite will hire 30 pilots this year total. First base too open will be Long Beach then Las Vegas or SFO and Phx eventually(I think). 14 to 16 day bid per month at a rate of 400 per day. You can live where ever you want as long as your at base on your first day on.
I enjoyed the Meet and Greet and the interview seemed laid back as well. I haven't heard back from anyone yet. I thought the JetSuite Team was really a great group and I believe this company will be a success.
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You mention 14-16 day bid per month. Are we talking 14 concurrent days (i.e., 2 weeks in a row) or split into groups of days?

Is the $400/day a Captain or FO rate? If it is a Capt rate, what would be the proposed FO rate?
 
On Your Six said:
You mention 14-16 day bid per month. Are we talking 14 concurrent days (i.e., 2 weeks in a row) or split into groups of days?

Is the $400/day a Captain or FO rate? If it is a Capt rate, what would be the proposed FO rate?
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I believe they said it will be a bid put out with groups of days split up through out the month. Some one asked if it would be 14 in a row and was told "They did not think so." I also heard some one say prob be 4-8 days on with some days off and so on. I don't think it is all worked out yet.

No one in my group asked about FO pay. I believe everyone hired will be trained single pilot so not sure if there is an FO pay scale. Again I'm not sure on this one.
 

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