Oberstar Questions Virgin America

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Good post TC....

 

[AA717driver]

Good post TC....

Thanks.

Are the ALPA groups in Skyteam and Star working with their counterparts to prevent management whipsawing and strike breaking using alliance pilots?

I've been urging APA to do so with BALPA and SEPLA-IB because we all know what's coming down the road.

TC

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Thanks.

Are the ALPA groups in Skyteam and Star working with their counterparts to prevent management whipsawing and strike breaking using alliance pilots?

I've been urging APA to do so with BALPA and SEPLA-IB because we all know what's coming down the road.

TC

Yes. But understand, as you know, while the market place is global, laws are local. It is very difficult.

please see...

http://www.itfglobal.org/civil-aviation/alliances.cfm


also, although not directly related...

http://transportation.house.gov/subcommittees/aviation.aspx

http://www.eurunion.org/eu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2936&Itemid=26

http://www.ttd.org/

http://www.ifalpa.org/

These websites are a little bit better than the FI experts....

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Pilots the World Over Oppose Outsourcing Jobs


Pilots from around the world are voicing their staunch opposition to the recently announced joint venture between United Airlines and Aer Lingus that will not use United or Aer Lingus crews on new Aer Lingus flights between Washington, D.C., and Madrid, Spain.
“The pilots of United and Aer Lingus have made enormous sacrifices throughout their careers to help their companies succeed to the point where they can expand international routes,” said Capt. Paul Rice, ALPA First Vice President and Deputy President of the International Federation of Airline Pilots’ Associations (IFALPA). “It is an outrage that the same pilots who helped these companies prosper are being denied their right to fly these new routes.”



The flights are scheduled to begin in April 2010, and the companies plan to add service to additional cities in 2011. In 2012, the airlines intend to create a new jointly-owned European carrier to take over these employees and services.
Representatives of Irish ALPA, ALPA-I, Sindicato Español de Pilotos de Lineas Aéreas (SEPLA), and the European Cockpit Association (ECA) met in New Zealand during the 64th IFALPA Conference. At the conference, the pilots shared information and discussed a common strategy to best protect the interests of the various parties’ constituents. Pilots attending the conference were unified in supporting their brothers and sisters at United and Aer Lingus in standing up to this blatant act of union-busting by the managements of both airlines.


“The proposed agreement between United Airlines and Aer Lingus has far-reaching implications for all pilots and airline employees around the world,” said Capt. Steve Wallach, United MEC chairman, speaking to an international group of pilots at the North American Regional meeting at the IFALPA conference.
“This is yet another attack on our wages and working conditions, and it must be stopped,” continued Wallach. “The outsourcing ‘race to the bottom’ must not be allowed to continue unabated. In the U.S., at least, airline managements appear to have not yet grasped the fact that the political landscape has changed. No longer can they routinely expect approval of corporate schemes that punish workers.”



http://www.alpa.org/DesktopModules/...px?itemid=18395&ModuleId=15680&Tabid=256#jump

 

[Fubijaakr]

Nice "Boomer" patch

Bearcats forever!

 

[JumpJetter]

Flt 3?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Oberstars speech to the Aviation Club.....

http://transportation.house.gov/Media/File/Aviation/IAC Speech 2009.pdf


He talks about Alliances and Foreign Control....

 

[clippyrip]

Oberstars speech to the Aviation Club.....

http://transportation.house.gov/Media/File/Aviation/IAC Speech 2009.pdf


He talks about Alliances and Foreign Control....

I don't see how he can argue antitrust violation if there are three alliances. That in and of itself is competition. Unless the three alliances chose to not serve the same communities I don't see how a legitimate investigation could possibly argue that antitrust is being violated.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I don't see how he can argue antitrust violation if there are three alliances. That in and of itself is competition. Unless the three alliances chose to not serve the same communities I don't see how a legitimate investigation could possibly argue that antitrust is being violated.

You are correct as I understand Oberstars comments..

oneworld has London/GB
Skyteam has Paris/AMS
and Star has FRA and central Europe...

There is very little competition....

For pilot labor, though the problem is a matter of whipsaw between the EU pilots and US pilots and as the Irish and United pilots are seeing... outsourced labor using an Alliances resources, such as marketing, routes, aircraft, etc....

 

[Fubijaakr]

Flt 3?

Indeed. Our motto:

"If the minimum wasn't good enough, it wouldn't be the minimum!"